Jonbouy
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Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
Howdy Music Lovers A recent song sketch I posted was met with the cool suggestion from Jamesyoyo to do a 'Groove' version which resulted in this stylised conversion of the original track. Since posting Herb Hartley 'Guitarhacker' kindly stepped up and offered his services to the 'cause. Before rushing off to listen then...  ...kindly indulge me a just a little here for a little on my thoughts about our very own 'Hacker' as he's done wonders here IMO as he normally does on pretty much every thing I've heard him play on. Not only that he's one of the nicest guys round these parts. When I first got involved in music there were only pretty much 2 types of electric Guitar...Fender or Gibson, single coil or humbucker pick-ups and you used one or the other to get the particular tone each one excelled at. These days you can get countless variations on the same themes but there is so much processing power you can shove any half-decent axe through some unit or another and make it sound anyway you like which to mind contributes to why I believe when I hear many modern tracks they often sound lacking that extra WOW factor. I know that is a simplistic point of view from a drummer that knows little about the subject of guitars but I'm making a point here...  Now, in our own unsung hero Herb we have a brilliant example of the real deal, someone who knows how to handle his trusty '69 Gibson SG and make it sing like it was meant to and he regularly turns out some of the best sounding Guitar tracks on this lil' ol' forum that I've heard for many a year. I'm sure he'll hate me for saying all that but I just wanted to say it out loud....no pressure there then GH... Fan rant over....don't take my word for it though check for yerself. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=836974&songID=7154799
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/21 20:49:13
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Jon and Herb this sounds great. Sure like the groove and sounds. That is a great job with the guitar. It sounds to me that it was worked out to begin with. That's cool.
Very tasteful musicianship from you guys. Ace.
Had to listen with cans and it sounds great.
Cheers guys!
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/21 21:33:51
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Nice piece, definitely enjoying the guitar work. Tasty.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/21 22:14:18
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Pretty awesome. I love the way the guitars fit with this, and the sound you are getting in this mix is phenomonal IMO. It kinda reminds me of something out of the 70s? Very nice colaboration.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/21 22:21:02
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very well done, the only little nit or crit was at some points the acoustic felt or sounded outaplace but everything else was spot on.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/21 22:23:20
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Great job guys, and your absolutely right, that SG and Herbs chops are right on mark, very tasteful.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/21 22:23:37
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Jon and Herb, this is really good. A very impressive piece. Truly amazing, really. Nice. You guys rock!
No crits, just props. <standing ovation>
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/21 22:43:22
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During the first half, guitar does not seem to overwhelm nor get routy (on my Adams)
Ah, but at 2:08 our guitar hero breaks forth and chimes most celestially.
At 3:20 ish the LT guitar notes are sublime as they gradually combine with the RT. (I detect a sweet 'guitar sliding' artifact) The guitar effects fit sweetly to your piece.
All the instruments join together in perfect harmony for this luscious ride.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/22 09:42:51
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A good song gone better...beautiful job Herb, some sweet soulful playing!
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/22 13:38:59
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Jonbouy,
Thank you my friend for the kind words. You provided a worthy backdrop upon which I was allowed to splatter my guitar work.... thanks.
I appreciate all the comments..... Thanks.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/22 13:56:34
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Good job you guys, as always!
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/22 16:59:58
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I'm floored by this. Tremendous mix! Great guitar playing. Driving percussion. I don't think this could get any better. Good call on the guitar Jon! You da man Herb!! I really am impressed!
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/22 17:08:44
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Oh yeah...love this. Excellent mix, great groove, tasty playing Herb 
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/22 22:03:11
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HEY gentlemen, very nice piece. The mix itself is very full and clean, love the way the guitar sits in the mix. Herb great tones and performance on the guitar. This is really just a GREAT colab pieced together with a FANTASTIC sounding mix. KUDOS!
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/22 22:39:21
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WOW! Definitely enjoying this piece! Love the ARP-style pads throughout. And the guitar work is purely majestic. Nice chords on those keys. Some serious talent on display here. Gonna share this with my friends for sure. Thanks for sharing.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/23 00:00:53
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Absolutely among some of the best musicianship and mixing I've ever heard. Excellence. 
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/23 16:57:57
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Fantastic track! A truely great production and performance from start to finish. Going back for another listen! Great stuff Bestest Paul
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/24 11:01:36
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Michael: Not sure what you meant by worked out to begin with but I'm glad you liked it. Ed: I'd have thought you'd have got bored of listening to my stuff by now... Herb hit this nicely though. Robby: Thanks for the props on the sound here, I tried a different approach here and set up a separate mastering project after it was mixed and it seems to have worked out well here. I wish I could do it everytime... Alkie: I agree that the fake acoustic sounds 'pants' listening again maybe I should turn it down at least. Rocky: Thanks man, 'Tasty Herb' I like it...I wonder if that one will stick... Tom: WOW, thanks I think you'd better sit down now I'm getting kind of embarrassed, in a good way though. Philip: Your appraisals are always poetry to my ears. Rick: I agree, hopefully I can twist his arm to do some more in '09. TYVM Herb: Take a bow my good man. And thanks again. Janet: Nice comment appreciated, as always. Slow Marching Band: James, Larry thanks I REALLY appreciate this praise from you two Kev: Thanks, always nice to get the thumbs up from the windy city. TRAFFIK: Sharing is caring... Thanks for the kind words. Duane: Given the quality of your mixes I take that as high praise indeed. Paul: Thanks me ol' mucker... Appreciate it. Many thanks to all for the listen and a clear round of positive comments, I've gotta thank the 'yoyo' here as well for nudging me in this direction. Like many here I've been up to my neck in it lately apparently it's something to do with Christmas so I haven't been able to spend as much time here as I normally like so I really appreciate those that have managed to put it out there the last week or so. Well have a good one y'all as it is officially Christmas now. PARTY!!!!
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/24 11:11:17
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Wow
You people ar getting me pumped. I guess I'm gonna have to get
my sg 2000 out of the closet and blow the dust off my Mesa/Boogie
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/24 12:42:55
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Very nice collaboration. Great, super-wide, expansive mix. Great performances all around.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/25 19:39:42
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Jimmy: Go to it man...If I could play that combo it wouldn't be gathering dust fer sure.
Tom: Thanks pal, I tried a different approach mixing and mastering this one looking at all the positive comments I think I'll use some of the lessons learned here again.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/26 17:01:15
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Jon and Herb,
Tasty is a perfect adjective to describe this. Wonderful playing, both of you and a real treat of a listen
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/26 18:06:58
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Really incredible, gentlemen! no critiques at all, just praise! this is really nice all through. love the synth sounds love the guitar really great!
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/26 18:54:08
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Hey jonbouy
I did blow the dust off my "boogie" thanks to you guys here. I have
a 50 caliber mesa and a quad/preamp mesa. I posted a tune usiing
the "quad" with a 3 pickup tele I custamized.
its a trbute to steive
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/29 23:16:26
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Wow, just wow. it's been said .... tasteful
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/29 23:33:04
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This is pretty darn cool, has a sophisticated swing about it, without sounding canned and cheesy (easy to do with modern home tools like sonar). It sounds very big too.
Nice work.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/30 20:44:10
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I really, really dig this... Very smooth and flowing. Great guitar work and it really fits well with the song. Good job guys!
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/30 20:58:18
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Ethereal, melodic, jazzy, even and 3 dimensional...very very good
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2008/12/31 20:30:06
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Gary: Thanks, I'd do the 'tasty Herb' line again but I fear its getting old now...dang, I just did it. Reece: Always nice to get past them Beagle hears without more work to do...appreciate it I'm sure the Hacker does too. Jimmy: I'm glad to hear it...I'll be able to give it a listen now, haven't been able to spend enough time over the holidays but I'll check it out. Pickle: I love that nick btw. Thanks for the thumbs up. Chaz: Sophisticated...I kinda like that directed my way, as it doesn't very happen often... Dan: Thank you, I always appreciate your ears on things. Twisted: Nice comments are cool from someone whose work I respect, Thanks all for taking the time.
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RE: Too Long....featuring 'Guitarhacker' (Suntoucher Remix)
2009/01/01 03:29:52
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listened through bose headphones
Club all the way
Fat beat
Good chit
4 for me up the guitar a little bit
nice work
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