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2014/05/11 11:06:10 (permalink)

Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk?

I've been trying to find a good comprehensive funk midi pack, but I haven't found much out there. I know the EZX has midi and XLN has a small midi pack. Does anyone have both or ideas on some good midi files. I didn't much at Groove monkee or platinum samples.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/11 14:00:25 (permalink)
    There's this...don't know anything about it though...


    http://rekkerd.org/loop-l..funk-drums-2-midi-pack/


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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/11 22:48:40 (permalink)
    One more great thing about EZD2 (there are many). You can demo the available midi from Toontrack. I think I may add the Back Beats pack and create what I'm looking for from it.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 10:26:48 (permalink)
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    One more great thing about EZD2 (there are many). You can demo the available midi from Toontrack. I think I may add the Back Beats pack and create what I'm looking for from it.



    YES...that is a nice thing....I REALLY don't like buying things based on the "Samples" on the site...
    as you have no idea WHAT they have done to them or how they were "processed" so, not that 
    that effects the MIDI...but you get the idea....


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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 10:28:58 (permalink)
    Clint, I see that you and another member mentioned this. As I don't have my main PC hooked up to the net, I am not able to take advantage of this feature. And I have never installed EZD on more than one PC.

    However, since I have had EZD2, I have come up with two or three new songs using the new features. And since I already have a few TT Midi packs, and I like them, I think I will load EZD2 on my net PC just to be able to try the ones I want. I am looking at a few right now, the second Songwriters pack and the first NY pack.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 18:36:27 (permalink)
    It's a great feature and it will help them sell more midi packs. To finish this thread...I bought "Back Beats midi and I bought the Funk adpak for Addictive drums 1. I also bought Retro. Now I must save for the eventual AD2 upgrade. This weekend I also traded for Indie and Black Velvet for AD1. Grand total I spent $50 (and Rob Papen Delay) for four AD adpaks. Now that they are $80 a piece, this seems like the smart thing to do.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 20:18:18 (permalink)
    From what I can see with the new AD beat browser you should have an easier time using your other midi content in AD2.
     
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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 20:22:27 (permalink)
    funk masters is real old school.
     
    i have it.
     

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 20:29:18 (permalink)
    I have loads of Groove Monkey clips. I agree they're not that good "as is," however as a foundation to customize to your own needs, they're great.

    But my absolute favorite use for them is as groove templates in Jamstix. Just load them as a style in a Jamstix part and you'll hear some of the best funk drumming in a VST.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 20:38:42 (permalink)
    I double checked, while Ad 2 has a "MY BEATS" Tab, the manual states that it's for midi created within AD. Surely there has to be a way to add other midi content.
     
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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 20:51:36 (permalink)
    Funk is a very broad term.  The Funk Masters is very old school funk and I don't know how well it would translate over the broad range of Funk styles.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 20:54:11 (permalink)
    Clint, Sorry to hijack your thread but I think I found something. C-> User->Joey bag of donuts->my documents->Addictive Drums-> User Midi files. In AD2 the folder is named external midi files. There's a note in the folder named " place midi files here.txt". The note states: Place external MIDI files in this folder and then choose “Refresh MIDI Library” in the Help Button [?] menu. Contact support if you need any further assistance.
    I hope this helps.
     
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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 20:54:40 (permalink)
    When it comes to midi packs don't forget Platinum Samples.  There is some very good midi there.  I'm not crazy about the Metal genre but there are others that I think are quite good (not that the Metal packs aren't good.)
     

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 21:02:07 (permalink)
    I was able to add some Odd Grooves files to my AD 2 library no problem.
     
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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 21:33:39 (permalink)
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    Clint, Sorry to hijack your thread but I think I found something. C-> User->Joey bag of donuts->my documents->Addictive Drums-> User Midi files. In AD2 the folder is named external midi files. There's a note in the folder named " place midi files here.txt". The note states: Place external MIDI files in this folder and then choose “Refresh MIDI Library” in the Help Button [?] menu. Contact support if you need any further assistance.
    I hope this helps.
     
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    No problem. I don't have AD2, but I have two groove monkee (Rock/blues and World beats) and one platinum samples midi pack (Steve Ferrone) in AD1. Funk (like Rock&Roll) is a pretty generic term these days I guess. A funkier midi pack is what I was looking for, but I'll just make my own.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 21:40:09 (permalink)
    I thought you mentioned having an issue getting your midi libraries to show up in AD in another thread.
     
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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/12 22:03:25 (permalink)
    I did. That was in the AD2 demo. Long story...the short version is. It was my fault. I thought at the time that the AD2 demo version was actually a full featured program with the only limitation being a crippled Fairfax.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/13 09:57:55 (permalink)
    +1 on loading midi in Jamstix to produce a style.
     
    I have so many midi grooves collected over the years that by using them as a basis for jamstix to produce a style is really unlimited.
     
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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/13 10:09:50 (permalink)
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    I have loads of Groove Monkey clips. I agree they're not that good "as is," however as a foundation to customize to your own needs, they're great.

    But my absolute favorite use for them is as groove templates in Jamstix. Just load them as a style in a Jamstix part and you'll hear some of the best funk drumming in a VST.

    I have never used jamstix...I'll have to check them out. Thanks.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/13 11:20:47 (permalink)
    With jamstix, I can put chords, say from a piano, in the timeline in X3 and jamstix will follow that?

    Or is it like BiaB and it has a place to input chords in it's own timeline?

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/13 11:27:15 (permalink)
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    With jamstix, I can put chords, say from a piano, in the timeline in X3 and jamstix will follow that?

    Or is it like BiaB and it has a place to input chords in it's own timeline?


    Grem, you can drag any midi that you have into the timeline on a MIDI instrument track
    and whatever instrument you have there will follow the MIDI...

    I use EZKeys to compose my song MIDI..then switch to my preferred Piano VSTi....

    It's also useful for experimentation....


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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/13 11:53:30 (permalink)
    Seem to be confusing EZ Keys with Jamstix.  jamstix is drums / percussion only.
     
    You do not use midi chords in Jamstix (like EZ Keys), you use midi grooves  (you can use canned ones, or write your own with a keys or pads).  In Jamstix there is an import midi groove function.
     
    Maybe I am missing something ?

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/13 12:20:38 (permalink)
    Auto, the VSTi will still follow the MIDI....no confusion...

    It may not get "all" the info but it WILL play whatever MIDI you put in the track...

    What he's asking is...if he put the PIANO midi on the Track with Jamstix
    will Jamstix "play" the MIDI...yes it will....it may sound like crap, but it WILL play it.

    Grem, the VSTi  will NOT "follow" as if it was playing along with the music...it will only play the MIDI
    that is inserted...just to be clear. 

    You can put ANY Midi from one instrument on another...it's MIDI data...so the VSTi will play it...
    howbeit maybe not very well and it may sound like crap...


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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/13 16:07:21 (permalink)
    Yup...midi is midi and chords or midi grooves can trigger a drum vtsi, it does not care.
     
    (midi grooves triggering synths make some neat noises, and so do arp patterns make cool drum patterns..never triggered a drum synth with chords, but why not !)
     
    What Jamstix does is you can take 4 bars of a real simple groove you like, import it and construct an entire song (fills, bridge, vamp, chorus, breakdown, etc.) 
     
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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/13 16:15:07 (permalink)
    Alright, I got my answer to my (I now know) unclear question. :)

    Next question, what version would suit me best. IOW, would the $99 version give me this ability to create a song from a rudimentary beat I give it, or would I need the $249 version? Or one in between?

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/13 22:06:43 (permalink)
    Grem
    Alright, I got my answer to my (I now know) unclear question. :)

    Next question, what version would suit me best. IOW, would the $99 version give me this ability to create a song from a rudimentary beat I give it, or would I need the $249 version? Or one in between?


    I believe the price differences are about "what kits" are included but I could be wrong...

    $99 basic
    $128 = more kits, and so forth...each including what the one before has and whatever else is listed
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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/14 08:40:58 (permalink)
    Correct - for the most part I use the stock kits in Jamstix for scratch and composing.  They are not that great in terms of sound quality but they are still very useable.  The Jamstix percussion is the first add-on i would purchase.  After that the different AI drummers are a good investment.  I would not spend a lot of money on the kits if you already have external drum synths like AD or EZ etc.
     
    Later in the song production cycle I will pick a kit from AD, EZ, Battery, BFD or SD kit and use Jamstix to trigger it.

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    Re: Toontrack Funk masters or Addictive drums Funk? 2014/05/14 09:29:30 (permalink)
    Thanks for the answers. They were very helpful.

    I am going to hold off for now. I just got through with a few purchases and just really stepping back to see which way I want to go.

    I want jamstix. Read a lit of good things about it. But I also want to try two demos to see what my next purchase will be.

    jamstix and that midi guitar software. The one that converts regular guitar to midi. That's the next things on the list.

    Which ever one I like best I'll go with.

    @Larry: Does jamstix ever go on sale and how often?

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