DPTrainor
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Toontracks EZMix
Thinking about getting EZMix. Anyone have any experience with this VST? Looks pretty cool!
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/08 09:50:18
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Just ordered EZMix 2. I will let you know. I don't plan to go crazy with it since I don't like to overdo effects.
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DPTrainor
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/08 10:04:31
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/08 11:17:45
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I bought EZ Mix when it first came out, and liked it a lot, then upgraded to EZ Mix 2, bought a couple of add on packs too, I think it's a great tool, and would say buy it !!!! John
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/08 12:18:03
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Highly recommended! It's an excellent tool for getting good sounds for purposes of demoing a song for someone, AND also for making the final product if you don't want to spend time tweaking things manually. I was very surprised at the quality I got out of EZMix 2, with the Metal pack installed. It's just insane for metal drum tracks. Remember though that you cannot edit the presets or create your own - there are only 2 parameters you can edit per preset, the rest is "hard-coded".
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/08 13:16:46
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Although they don't cater to my specific genre, I've gotten occasional use out of it (EZMix2). If anything, it's good for contrast/compare to what you have going on. The preset packs are a good extension of the product depending on your need(s).
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michel1949
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/08 14:46:05
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hi to all is EZ drummer better then session drummer 3? I am about to build my own drums and would like to use the best program wich may be easier thanks in advance for the reply michel
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/08 17:18:18
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EZ is better than session. If you can afford it Superior is the one to get. Superior will also play any of the EZ drum librarys.
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/08 18:20:24
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I just installed and am trying out EZMix 2 and the mastering Pack add on. I don't know about the mastering pack yet, but I already love EZMix 2. I feared it would be too gimicky, but the Wide Vocals and Acoustic Guitar presets (esp Acoustic Guitar 2 on a finger picked Martin) I tried right off are excellent. They add subtle polish, sparkle, presence, and size. If my other tests go as well, I will give this product a very high recommendation.
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DPTrainor
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/08 18:39:51
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Awesome! I will buy it! Thanks all!!!
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 00:23:58
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OK, have tried a number of things so far: acoustic guitar, vocals, bass, and master buss. I have been happy with all so far. There are many effects and presets, including simple things like reverbs and basic amp sims, so I imagine I will be experimenting for a while. You get quite a bit for the ~$150 USD it costs.
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vinny199
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 05:31:40
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The question I'm asking myself about EZmix: Can it "really do a full mix" (of course volumes and pannings need to be dealt with. But how can it really get the EQ etc spot on without "hearing" the source material as an engineer does? I'm saying that because I am in the process of mixing an album now. I am not good enough to mix stuff on my own and I export all my stems to load into protools at my local studio and I work with the engineer there to do the mix. At best, we do 1 song a day. Sometimes it takes longer. and it does cost me quite a few quid too.. Most my songs have around 35 to 40 tracks. It would just be "magic" if I could get the same results as I am getting mixing with an engineer. Can it really do the job that well? I'd be curious to hear more (and hearing mixed songs too)..
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 07:46:29
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You can read my brief review of EZMIX2 in Bass Musician Magazine I would suggest that you download the demo and try it out for yourself!
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 10:38:00
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vinny199 The question I'm asking myself about EZmix: Can it "really do a full mix" (of course volumes and pannings need to be dealt with. But how can it really get the EQ etc spot on without "hearing" the source material as an engineer does? I'm saying that because I am in the process of mixing an album now. I am not good enough to mix stuff on my own and I export all my stems to load into protools at my local studio and I work with the engineer there to do the mix. At best, we do 1 song a day. Sometimes it takes longer. and it does cost me quite a few quid too.. Most my songs have around 35 to 40 tracks. It would just be "magic" if I could get the same results as I am getting mixing with an engineer. Can it really do the job that well? I'd be curious to hear more (and hearing mixed songs too).. JMO, but EZMix is full of presets, not magic. You still have to "somewhat" know what you want out of a track or bus (i.e. why use a distortion preset on an acoustic guitar in a bluegrass tune?). After that you have parameters that you probably will tweak. Bottom line is, it can be easier to get closer to what you want with EZMix on a track or bus level but you still have to deal with producing your song/album and there is no "real" magic bullet for that.
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vinny199
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 10:56:21
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Hey Bapu, yes, sure I know that. And I do all the production and choose my effects as I need. I have no problem with that. It is the very final 10% of mixing I struggle with: largelly EQing. I'm good with compressions etc. I was just wondering how a "mixing software" with preset could EQ in an optimum way a track in relation to another. for instance, it it doesn;t know what kind of Kick I use, how can it EQ the bass correctly? and the kick for that matter? It just seems impossible a software could do that. However, as suggested before I'll downlod the demo and check it out. JMO, but EZMix is full of presets, not magic. You still have to "somewhat" know what you want out of a track or bus (i.e. why use a distortion preset on an acoustic guitar in a bluegrass tune?). After that you have parameters that you probably will tweak. Bottom line is, it can be easier to get closer to what you want with EZMix on a track or bus level but you still have to deal with producing your song/album and there is no "real" magic bullet for that. bapu vinny199 The question I'm asking myself about EZmix: Can it "really do a full mix" (of course volumes and pannings need to be dealt with. But how can it really get the EQ etc spot on without "hearing" the source material as an engineer does? I'm saying that because I am in the process of mixing an album now. I am not good enough to mix stuff on my own and I export all my stems to load into protools at my local studio and I work with the engineer there to do the mix. At best, we do 1 song a day. Sometimes it takes longer. and it does cost me quite a few quid too.. Most my songs have around 35 to 40 tracks. It would just be "magic" if I could get the same results as I am getting mixing with an engineer. Can it really do the job that well? I'd be curious to hear more (and hearing mixed songs too).. JMO, but EZMix is full of presets, not magic. You still have to "somewhat" know what you want out of a track or bus (i.e. why use a distortion preset on an acoustic guitar in a bluegrass tune?). After that you have parameters that you probably will tweak. Bottom line is, it can be easier to get closer to what you want with EZMix on a track or bus level but you still have to deal with producing your song/album and there is no "real" magic bullet for that.
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bapu
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 11:28:19
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vinny199 Hey Bapu, for instance, it it doesn;t know what kind of Kick I use, how can it EQ the bass correctly? and the kick for that matter? It just seems impossible a software could do that. However, as suggested before I'll downlod the demo and check it out. Exactly why I said they are "presets" that will (most likely) need to be tweaked. Eaxmple: you have a kick but it's not cutting through the mix. Assuming it's compressed properly you probably need EQ. Now EZMix has a multitude of Kick presets that not only will EQ but maybe even compress. So you might call up Firm Kick which has two parameters: EQ and Sustain. Will it solve your problem automagically? No. But it might get you a lot closer than if you inserted a Sonitus EQ and and a Transient Designer (unless you already "know" these tools, which you claim you don't as yet). The upside is ypu get there quicker. The downside is you may not learn the proper use of an actual EQ and Transient Designer plugs as the EZMix preset has somewhat shielded you from that. It's really a production choice (and potential time save) you have to make. Again, no magic here just an easier/quicker route to get what you may be looking for.
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vinny199
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 11:36:38
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Bapu, thanks, out of interest, Have you mixed a track of yours using mostly ezmix that I can listen to? (I'm going to download the demo, make my own opinion about it. just curious as to what others achieve with it..)
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 11:42:13
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vinny199 Bapu, thanks, out of interest, Have you mixed a track of yours using mostly ezmix that I can listen to? (I'm going to download the demo, make my own opinion about it. just curious as to what others achieve with it..) Nope, I do not "mostly" use EZMix. I use it sparingly. My go to is the Bass Chorus. I have used cymbal, HH and OH processing for live/real drums that I get from Dave (quantumeffect) on collabs. Mots collabs I do come with already pretty god EQ'd guitars and keys, and of course I do my bass to compliment what I get. I've never used EZMix on vocals (yet).
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DPTrainor
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 17:18:47
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 23:38:10
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I just sold mine because I have too much stuff. The product is pretty good but the packs cost too much and you don't really know what you are going to get. Certainly nothing wrong with it.
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konradh
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 23:39:13
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Vinny, You are correct that a plug cannot know what neds to be corrected. EZMix and similar packages make some asusmptions. For example, a common trick is to boost a kick drum at around 60-80 cycles, cut it around 200-400, and boost it around 3000. So, one kick drum preset may have settings like that and be called "Std Kick" or something. EZMix has a variety of kick presets for different styles of music. They all assume that the kick you are processing is fairly normal but you will have to try the presets to see what you like. The same goes for vocals, guitars, etc. EZMix combines a number of effects into each preset, so a guitar preset may consist of EQ, compression, delay, and distoration, or some other combination. For mastering, you will either have to know something about what you are doing, or go through the presets on a trial and error basis. Mastering does not seem to be EZMix's main focus or biggest strength, at least in my opinion. It seems to be better at processing individual tracks or submixes. That said, I bought an add-on Mastering pack for EZmix 2 and it has a couple of presets I like.
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/09 23:43:52
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Oh I should have read further.......... ezmix is exactly what the tin says EZ = MIX. It's not designed for people who want to tweak and fix. Not what it was made for. That is NOT to imply a pro can't use it (that would be silly) but if controlling parameters is your wish, this isn't for you.
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vinny199
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/10 04:47:55
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Thanks Konrad, I get it now. makes sense. I'll try the demo on a simple song. see how i get on. many thanks
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/10 08:09:47
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DPTrainor Nice Review! Thanks - it's a fun product to work with. I continue to use it for various tweaks here and there in my mix. I also really like the bass chorus (as Bapu mentioned above).
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/10 10:00:17
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I tried it but actually it didn't do much for me-I have been using alloy and alloy 2 for a while so I guessI am use to them. Very transparent and very powerful
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Sidroe
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Re:Toontracks EZMix
2012/11/10 11:47:12
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Bottom line. With some patience and persistence you can acheive the same results using what you have in the PC. Learn what those plugins do and you will have that knowledge that will help you to KNOW what to do when a track does not sound right. That knowledge also carries over to the hardware units as well. If you understand what those knobs do on the plugin then you inderstand what those knobs do on the the hardware. That is a wealth of info to have. When you get your sound tweaked then save the setup as a PC preset. It doesn't take long to start getting a long list of your own custom presets waiting to be loaded in PC. I like the concept of EZMix but unless you are willing to tweak a lot you are not going to learn much about crafting a sound. As stated before, most presets are over done so when you hear it you say "WOW, WHAT A DIFFERENCE!" The problem is later down the road you are probably still going to be tweaking for the mix. There is not and never shall be a magic plugin that mixes the perfect sound for us. It is the knowledge of the tools you have at hand that makes your mixes better.
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