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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 07:56:52
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If TouchDAW or some other control surface could be effective on an Android I'd consider getting a Samsung Galaxy (after OS upgrade that is) as to me is the best alterative to an iPAD. Now, don't get me wrong, I think the iPAD is impressive, my mother has one and it is well-built and easy to use. I really considered getting an iPAD 2 when they came out but they didn't seem that big of a technology leap from the first version. I'm also curious to see what the Win 8 tablet is all about, so I've stayed on the fence. Lastly, I wonder if there would be a need to have the VS-700C if you could virtualize (and customize) your control surface on a tablet... It seems to me that Roland/Cakewalk should take this chance to create the next gen tablet control surface for Sonar on each of the tablet platforms. That would definitely make me buy a tablet. Tom
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 07:57:30
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You do not have X1 and have clearly stated you do not plan on buying it.. So is there any particular reason why you are posting in the X1 forum?..
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:00:09
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I found the ASUS transformer to be one of the best current gen Android tablets. There are two major advantages. It has a keyboard dock which allows you to convert it in to a functionally equivalent netbook. It is running stock Honeycomb 3.2 - no bloatware installed by the vendor which means that you get google updates potentially more frequently. As long as TouchDaw works with Honeycomb it will work fine on this tablet. I have it installed but havent had the time to try it out yet. I did chek it out on my phone some months ago.. I use the Splashtop remote desktop to connect to my PC from the transformer occasionallyy and it works fairly well. Another plus is that the tablet has a built in HDMI output for 1080P playback to a monitor/TV - useful for presentations on the go. The other tablets all require a dock for this.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:13:24
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Ah, I said Asus before, didn't I? I meant Acer. Not seen the Asus tablet.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:21:26
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I found the ASUS transformer to be one of the best current gen Android tablets. There are two major advantages. It has a keyboard dock which allows you to convert it in to a functionally equivalent netbook. It is running stock Honeycomb 3.2 - no bloatware installed by the vendor which means that you get google updates potentially more frequently.
As long as TouchDaw works with Honeycomb it will work fine on this tablet. I have it installed but havent had the time to try it out yet. I did chek it out on my phone some months ago..
I use the Splashtop remote desktop to connect to my PC from the transformer occasionallyy and it works fairly well.
Another plus is that the tablet has a built in HDMI output for 1080P playback to a monitor/TV - useful for presentations on the go. The other tablets all require a dock for this.
Actually Noel the xoom has a mini HDMI output, no dock needed. We don't have android honeycomb 3.2, still 3.1 here but, coming and I think one of the posters disagreed about the ASUS tablet as being the best. IPad 2 vs Xoom no contest, IPad3 vs Xoom, it will be interesting. Hey Noel, do I get my free upgrade??? You haven't said yes but you haven't said no, as I posted early, I know the tactics of all the great's: Tony DeFries, Peter Grant and Michael Jeffery to name a few. I'm cutting edge down here in OZ, I have offered to look over your software, if I can get this to work, no crashes, I shall eat your shoes, how's that for a deal??? Finally just a word of caution, TouchDaw works well on Android Honeycomb 3.1, the Samsung Galaxy and all the Droid phones don't have this, so I cannot guarantee same functionality on these devices. Peace Ben
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:34:29
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I don't understand the relevance of "Tony DeFries, Peter Grant and Michael Jeffery" to the getting or not of free software. Can you explain?
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:36:59
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Ben says "the xoom has a mini HDMI output, no dock needed"
Where's the extra 360P?
John says "The ASUS ones are horrible"
It's great that we have someone with "the rare opportunity to try quite a number out." ;-)
The rest of us are probably going to have to stop in at Best Buy and try out 20 different tablets today, tomorrow, when ever.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:49:06
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been using V-Control Pro on my iPad to control Pro-Tools for several months now. sure beats the heck out of the old Tranzport - and has greater range. sadly, doesn't work with sonar.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:49:37
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John T
I don't understand the relevance of "Tony DeFries, Peter Grant and Michael Jeffery" to the getting or not of free software. Can you explain?
Uh oh....  
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:50:53
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Ben says "the xoom has a mini HDMI output, no dock needed"
Where's the extra 360P?
John says "The ASUS ones are horrible"
It's great that we have someone with "the rare opportunity to try quite a number out." ;-)
The rest of us are probably going to have to stop in at Best Buy and try out 20 different tablets today, tomorrow, when ever.
He meant ACER....which I HAD.... 
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:54:15
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Yeah, my mistake, I meant Acer. They're horrible cheap nasty things, and slow and cranky as hell. The ASUS one looks fairly impressive.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 08:58:37
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Are we to assume you haven't had the rare opportunity to try an ASUS?
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:04:05
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You don't need to assume anything, I already said I've not used one.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:09:53
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I no longer believe anything you write without explicit confirmation.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:16:30
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:16:51
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John T
I don't understand the relevance of "Tony DeFries, Peter Grant and Michael Jeffery" to the getting or not of free software. Can you explain?
These guys all made ridiculous demands, (haven't you got it yet, I take the piss out of myself, yes I want the free upgrade but I am trying to do it with humour, I hope someone understands).
Ok example after getting an extension on a loan from Warner, so Hendrix could continue to build his studio and remember, Warner were waiting for a new record, Hendrix was in the ****, hence A Band of Gypsy's (great record).
Jeffery's had just secured a 1,000,000 dollar loan to continue building Electric Lady, he then said in that same meeting, I've got this movie idea, how much are you going to give me?
Hence, I am being ridiculous in that, I am my own manager and I am trying to do business with Cakewalk, yea I am nobody, perhaps but I know **** and I know how **** works, I have a lot more talents and maybe they could be useful to whomever, this board is for all intense and purpose, an advertising space. But remember I am taking the piss, but if they want me to have a look at things see if it works because I have made creamware, vst wrappers and Presonus spidf all work together in tandem, I may just be able to make UAD, Laptop, X1 and tablet's work, then as I say, trumpet this because once again, Sonar still is the best mixing environment around.
Ok rant over, you guys are in the US and I am always a little under the weather when your having coffee, it's no competition.
Mike lest's not be too anal about these things, it's a tablet and the amount of times I am going to hook it into HDMI socket are not many, but on saying that you could low resoulution video for a live show off it, then we get into asthetic quality and if it's art, it's art!!! Peace Ben
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:19:50
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The thing is, Michael Jeffery might have been asking a lot, but on his side of the bargain, he could offer up Jimi Hendrix. DeFries could offer up David Bowie. Grant could offer up Led Zeppelin. So yeah, these guys were asking premium prices for the absolute best of the best. That's not really the same as just rocking up asking for stuff for free for no good reason.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:26:41
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Noel mentioned he had a tablet with 1080P output and then it seemed like you (Ben) responded by saying that the XOOM has similar HDMI output.
My Droid X phone has 720P HDMI output... as does the XOOM.
1080P is more better.
I figured the "scientist" part of your interests would appreciate accurate data.
I didn't know you were a Freudian clinician as well. :-)
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:31:22
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[whistlingfaceemoticon]Doodoo bedoo bah..mana mana...[/whistlingfaceemoticon]
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:33:14
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Noel mentioned he had a tablet with 1080P output and then it seemed like you responded by saying that the XOOM has similar HDMI output.
My Droid X phone has 720P HDMI output... as does the XOOM.
1080P is more better.
I figured the "scientist" part of your interests would appreciate accurate data.
I didn't know you were a Freudian clinician as well. :-)
best,
mike
Are you talking to me mike because I was just saying those extra dots, they're not the most important thing I would look at, if I am going to watch a movie over the thing, I would be more concerned but because it's a digital notebook for me, that's not too important and I haven't been advocating a or b just chatting away about the topic. John T, I know I am not The Beatles but i know "a" formula (audio engineering) I have average equipment (computer) but good other bits and pieces and I have knowledge. I also know how to make interesting music and now I will use another analogy, if Mozart (I am not Mozart) comes to you and as in the 1700's you had patron's, why is it not appropriate for me to ask Cakewalk to be my patron? Peace Ben
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:35:22
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Because your description of yourself probably also describes the vast majority of their customers.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:44:49
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Interesting little thing..it supposedly can be used with an Android phone...mmmmmm.
I'm going to check this thing out.....
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 09:45:03
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Ben, I'm not trying to convince you that you want the extra dots.... I'm just suggesting that, as a "scientist", you might want to employ more exactitude when reading and replying to posts.
I believe Noel's point about the ASUS was that it has native 1080p output... and it is still considered a "rare opportunity" to use a tablet with native 1080p output.
Your reply seemed to side step that detail... so I asked where the extra dots went. :-)
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 10:08:18
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Anyone who can buy a tablet just so they can mix on the crapper can well afford to purchase a $99 upgrade so get some self respect and quit begging..
FYI, there are paying, yes paying customers who have far less disposable income that you...
pathetic.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 10:11:32
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"mix on the..."
Wireless headphones or InstantARC™?
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 10:30:03
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...let me try this again...
After my cat stepped on my laptop and sent the last post I had into the aether....
Mike...I'd like to see InstantARC do its thing....
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 10:55:59
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It seems this is setup for Cubase. Ben how are you getting it to work with X1? Oh I also have an Android tablet. Just found it. It does support X1. At Android Pit there is a free version.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 11:09:29
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Anyone who can buy a tablet just so they can mix on the crapper can well afford to purchase a $99 upgrade so get some self respect and quit begging..
FYI, there are paying, yes paying customers who have far less disposable income that you...
pathetic.
Sorry not rich and if you read my post, I neither want or need X1. I won't tell you my circumstance, I am self-indulgent but as my letters suggest, I am smart and in the great words of John Lennon "I am not better, or greater" Let's just say I know how to balance debt and I bet you I could fix the american economy with the way I run my economy, ok joke!!! But the point to "wanting a free copy" is to help Cakewalk (and me), once again, I have said many times "best mixing GUI" in the business IMHO and I am bored with I can't make it work ****, if I can't make it work, no one can!!!! And once again, I am taking the piss!!! So it works John??? let me know and I will help. Peace Ben
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 11:13:52
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I haven't finished reading the manual Ben. It does seem cool. But I already have a CS the Mackie Control. I will play around with it as time allows though. I'll let you know how things goes. BTW I'm not sure what Mike was on about. So ignore.
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Re:TouchDAW-Motorola Xoom Tablet-Works!!!
2011/08/22 11:15:59
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Ben, you'd be perfect for the beta program... then you'd get some free proggys and get to stay ahead of the curve 24/7.
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