Track Timing is off and I am Banging my head

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2012/04/25 12:35:21 (permalink)

Track Timing is off and I am Banging my head

AMD 6c Cpu , Win 7 , Sonar Producer 8 , M Audio Fire wire 1814 using the latest WDM driver So I have my instrument track down , then we go back and add the vox all records fine , on play back the tracks don't ling up ! I looked all over and the only fix I can find is manual moving the wav file (track) to line up This is nuts is there a fix ???  
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    Re:Track Timing is off and I am Banging my head 2012/04/25 13:43:17 (permalink)
    You must have something setup wrong because almost no one else is having that problem. Check your sample rate setting. It should be 44100 Hz. Could be a problem with your Firewire interface. Hopefully it uses the Texas Instruments chipset. 

    Are you using more than one sound card? That can cause timing problems. You should be using ASIO mode using the native M-Audio ASIO drivers (i.e., not ASIO4ALL). 

    How are you monitoring your playback? Are you monitoring through the Firewire card's headphone outputs?

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    Re:Track Timing is off and I am Banging my head 2012/04/25 14:11:29 (permalink)

    You can automate the nudge via the "Manual Offset" setting under "Record Latency Adjustment" in the advanced audio options. 

    For best precision, it's normally recommended that an external loopback be used, but you can eyeball it and get pretty close. 

    Set the time display to show samples rather than MM:SS. Zoom in on a convenient transient in the audio and note its sample position. Nudge it into place and note the new sample position. Subtract the two to determine how many samples you had to move it. This is the value you'll enter in the Manual Offset box.

    For a more precise adjustment, play an existing audio file and run a patch cable from the interface's output back into one of its inputs and record it. This will give you two files that you can zoom in on and precisely line up. A drum track works nicely for this.



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    Re:Track Timing is off and I am Banging my head 2012/04/25 16:30:29 (permalink)
    Is your instrument track a VST or an audio file?  What other plugins are you using? 
     
    I have had plugins cause sever timing issue with MIDI events.  Once I found the plugin causing the problem simply deleting it caused everything to return to normal.  You might want to give this a try.
     
    If these two recordings are both audio files then your issues are most likely elsewhere.

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    Re:Track Timing is off and I am Banging my head 2012/04/25 17:29:23 (permalink)
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    AMD 6c Cpu , Win 7 , Sonar Producer 8 , M Audio Fire wire 1814 using the latest WDM driver So I have my instrument track down , then we go back and add the vox all records fine , on play back the tracks don't ling up ! I looked all over and the only fix I can find is manual moving the wav file (track) to line up This is nuts is there a fix ???  

      M-Audio I think really likes ASIO drivers better. So update to the ASIO driver and switch driver modes.  See if that solves it.  
    post edited by Guitarhacker - 2012/04/25 17:30:33

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