Track View jumping to parent track when selecting Takes

I just dug through all of the relevant context menus for the TV and Preferences options and could not find a single thing that could affect this behavior. I tried disabling Scroll Lock on my keyboard (which I do anyway for playback) and nada.
 
I'm feeling this may be something I'm stuck with and that it may be a poorly thought out intended behavior. Am I the only one having a problem with this?

I'm not sure whether this will solve your problem because it's a workaround, but the way I deal with multiple tracks that have multiple take lanes is to keep both parent tracks visible by reducing the height to show the Take Lane on/off buttons. I can then show Take Lanes in one track and select the desired Take, then hide those Take Lanes. show the Take Lanes for the other track, and ctrl-click on the other Take.
 
If you have lots of takes, this method won't let you see all the Take Lanes at one time during the selection process - basically you keep Take Lanes hidden until you want to select or edit something - but if you go back and check, Sonar will retain whichever Take you selected in each track until changed.
 
As you've found, the key is to make sure the parent track is onscreen before doing selections. If you don't have lots of takes on multiple tracks, this isn't too difficult, otherwise the show/hide button is a big help. 
 

Actually... I'm powered down now but I don't think your way would solve this particular issue because the problem occurs when I make my selection in one track then navigate to another to make another selection. That second track is the one that jumps so if I closed the take lanes I wouldn't be able to make my selection.
 
Oof. This problem seems to be part Auto Zoom (which I have turned off anyway) part Comping/Take Lanes weirdness and part fractional scrolling deficiency. Like all these features are creating a perfect storm for this to happen.
 
Whatever... I'll get used to it I guess. Cheers.

Yeah, that's the thing. I almost always end up with so many takes that if I am viewing the bottom most ones the parent track is completely offscreen. This is because I write into the DAW section by section which takes up a ton of takes. Then I'll clean that up by flattening and deleting the segments but then I'll record as I practice the part to polish it and make little tweaks until I start getting some final takes... so I'll clean up that mess and then record a ton of the now practiced/polished takes so I can pick the best one or splice them together (but usually I tried to play the entire song perfectly to avoid too much editing and... well to me I feel like I'm cheating if I slice and dice too much).
 
I basically do a ton of work in the lanes area. This all gets made worse because of the minimum height of the lanes and my not so huge (but by no means small) monitor.
 
And I LOVE Comping mode. Wouldn't trade it for anything. It's just this jumping thing that's a problem. It would be nice if there was a TV Views menu option for Show Parent Track On Selection or something that could disabled.
 
However this only seems to happen once within a track. Basically the first selection or action taken will make the screen jump then I can scroll down so the parent track is offscreen and do stuff without it jumping again. If I switch to another track then it will jump again then be normal. Usually. So it doesn't seem to actually be intended behavior.
 
Either way I've kind of got my head wrapped around it. I just wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong or if this was known behavior. If it happens to you too then I guess it's confirmed so I'll just deal with it and maybe submit a report/request. I gotta call the lads at support soon anyway about some other stuff so maybe I'll mention it then.
 
Cheers and thanks for your input.

Hi, Dan. Thanks for popping in. Unfortunately I do not have video capture software (or skills) at the moment but I'll fire up the DAW and type up a sure fire recipe. Back in a bit.

Oh and the above can be duplicated even if the parent track is only partially offscreen. It just isn't as dramatic because it's just nudging the parent track to be completely viewable. The affect of this can be minimized or avoided by making the parent track as vertically small as possible.
 

This is the first recipe I posted.
 
Record Mode = Comping
Auto Track Zoom = Off
 
1) Insert 2 audio tracks into project and arm for recording
 
2) Record into both tracks multiple times creating enough takes/lanes that when viewing the bottom most take of either track the parent track is pushed offscreen upward. Leave the take lanes for both tracks open.
 
3) Select a take lane at the bottom of the first track with the parent track offscreen using the blue select button (the one beside the MSR controls). The screen will not jump.
 
4) Scroll down to a take at the bottom of the second track so the parent track is offscreen.
 
5) Using the blue select button select the take lane.
 
The screen will jump to show the parent track and all the lanes in between the selection and where the cursor lands after the jump will be selected as if I drag selected all those lanes.
 
Okay... sorry for the screwup. lol...
 

Hi, Dan. So the clip selection jump doesn't actually happen when I select the second clip but when I Right Click after the selection to access the menu.
 
The funny thing is you are right about the Clip Grouping and I am now using the Group Clips In Folders option while recording however what I was actually trying to do was group clips I had already recorded with the option off (I thought they could be automatically grouped AFTER recording but that is not the case). So when I tried to right click to get at the clip grouping option that is when the jumps would happen.
 
After messing with it I have a decent workflow to get these things done and in fact I think there is a keybinding for grouping clips which would avoid having to use the right click menu anyway but there may be other functions in that menu that I need to get at which might again trigger this behavior.
 
Actually it seems to mostly have something to do with just scrolling to a different track's take lanes and not necessarily two tracks recorded simultaneously so it may occur when simply moving to another track and doing something which I will try out now.
 
Anyway, I am very happy you confirmed checked it and hope you see the right click behavior as well. Cheers.

Hi there
To clarify what were the final steps to repro here, the expected and actual behaviour? Would be nice to get all the steps and behaviours into one post so it's easy peasy and quick to validate thanks.

Thanks I'll check it.

Hi, Alex. No report number because Dan looked at it here so I figure it's in good hands.
 
Also it seems that:
 
a) It doesn't matter if the tracks were recorded simultaneously. This can be reproduced with any track in a project.
 
b) It doesn't matter if there are two takes in a track or twenty. Just as long as the parent track is offscreen it will jump. So let's say you have two takes in the second track and they are stretched out enough that the parent track is offscreen. Selecting the lane or right clicking after selection will still make the jump occur.
 
I'm sure I could force it in other ways too but have some other things to do. I'm just glad it's confirmed and getting some love from the Bakers.
 
Cheers and thanks, all.

#21 needs to be validated in Platinum. For the moment I'm throwing this thread into the problem reports forum. If this is validated again we will need a CWBRN so we can put it in the subject title.

Thanks..

No need to apologise... Sorry I'm not in front of Sonar right now, in fact I haven't been for several days... just winging it . I hope somebody validates this before I do...
 
Cheers!

That is indeed good news. Thank you for checking, Alex. It can make editing across multiple tracks loaded with takes a real bear.
 
One more thing to look forward to.
 
And thank you, Bakers for fixing it.
 
:-)