Tracks not in sync

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2008/02/02 11:15:56 (permalink)

Tracks not in sync

Okay, I know next to nothing about digital audio. Thus, I am in this forum to learn.

Now, my issue is that whenever I record a track and then record a second track, the second track, over time, loses timing. So, my two track recording sounds like some old Bruce Lee movie with the dubbing off.

I have no idea what to do about this. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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    Beagle
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/02/02 11:39:32 (permalink)
    do you have a soundblaster sound card? if so, change your sampling rate to 48kHz instead of 44.1kHz. if that's not the case, then we need to know more about your system, your soundcard, your version of MC - everything you can give us.

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/02/16 11:00:53 (permalink)
    Well, I am sort of a novice to all this hard ware stuff. But this is what I could find out.

    Computer is an Acer Aspire 5570Z laptop.
    OS is Windows Vista
    Music Creator 4.2.2
    The soundcard is Realtek High Definition Audio. I could not find any type number or anything, but then again, I am new to this tech stuff.

    Sorry if that does not help, but hopefully I can put more up later.
    post edited by ChoirBoy - 2008/02/16 11:16:33
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/02/16 13:35:46 (permalink)
    try changing to MME driver mode
    OPTIONS>AUDIO>ADVANCED>DRIVER MODE = MME
    close MC
    restart MC
    let the wave profiler run

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/04/01 01:33:29 (permalink)
    I have the same problem.Tracks go out of sync about 1 minute into the tune.
    Machine is an AMD 64 2.4 gig
    1 gig dual chanel ram
    plenty of hard drive
    Sound Blaster X-Fi audio

    I use a Barringer mixer to run it all to the sound card. I am running in MME driver mode
    otherwise the play back is crappy. I tried switching the sample rate to 48khz and that
    seemed to make it worse. Also when i am recording, the level indicators on the console are a
    bit behind me actually strumming a cord or hitting a note. Even the drum machine lags behind.
    Any sugestions or input would be greatly apreciated.....
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/04/01 07:21:08 (permalink)
    you could try ASIO4ALL for the SB card.

    http://www.asio4all.com

    download and install asio4all, then change to ASIO driver mode.
    OPTIONS>AUDIO>ADVANCED>DRIVERMODE = ASIO
    close and restart MC

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/04/01 13:32:12 (permalink)
    That seems to have done the trick... I've been yankin on my hair for quite some time now trying to make setting changes
    Thank you..thank you ...thank you Beagle....... now the fun begins
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/04/01 13:38:02 (permalink)
    you're welcome! now go make music!

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/04/01 15:17:25 (permalink)
    See, I would have told them to go and get a good sound card/interface, but Beagle saves the day! Way to go.

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/04/01 16:53:03 (permalink)
    Beag you forgot to tell him to remember you when accepts that Grammy!

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/04/01 20:13:31 (permalink)
    yep

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/04/02 00:30:28 (permalink)
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/11 17:57:13 (permalink)
    I am having the same problem. I tried all the suggested options in this thread, but was unsuccessful. The double recording option worked when i first installed MC, but randomly stopped working one day.

    Cakewalk Music Creator 2003
    Windows XP Edition 05
    Dell dimension E510
    Sigma Tel

    Hope this information helps
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/11 18:05:46 (permalink)
    with a sigma tel soundcard you need to use MME driver mode.

    what do you mean by "double recording option"?

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/18 12:38:00 (permalink)
    Thanks. I will try this

    When i said double recording option, i didn't mean it was an option i could click on, i meant the process of recording separate tracks.
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/18 12:42:57 (permalink)
    Maybe you meant "dubbing"?

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/19 17:24:07 (permalink)
    OPTIONS>AUDIO>ADVANCED>DRIVERMODE
    I looked here first, but there is no DRIVERMODE. I looked around some more and was unable to find anything about MME. I don't know if i screwed something up on my program or not.

    Sorry for any delayed responses. I do not have internet on my computer right now.

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/19 17:28:13 (permalink)
    Cakewalk Music Creator 2003
    I think maybe for MC2003 there's only a check box somewhere that says "Always use MME driver mode"

    but that's old sofware and I've never used it and I don't know exactly where to find that option.

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/19 18:06:29 (permalink)
    Beag's memory is quite right, there is a check box that says" always use MME Driver mode"

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/22 01:26:52 (permalink)
    New member here. I have sync issues also when trying to add an audio track to a midi project. I have 10 midi tracks and I am trying to use an audio track to record the midi tracks as stereo audio, but when I hit record, the recording takes place, but studders at random jumps. I have kx audio driver and my soundcard is an sboo92 audigy I think. I tried beagle suggestions about letting MC4 use MME and analyze my setup...it says everything is OK, but results are the same on the timing. I have a Pentium 3 with about a gig of RAM using XP Pro. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated !
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/22 08:48:40 (permalink)
    we'll need a little more info. P3, what speed? and what version of MC are you using?

    your soundcard is SB Audigy? you might need to try the ASIO4ALL driver. go to http://www.asio4all.com download and install the driver, then change to ASIO driver mode:
    OPTIONS>AUDIO>ADVANCED>DRIVER MODE = ASIO
    close and restart MC

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/22 22:59:49 (permalink)
    OK, I downloaded the ASIO driver and installed. When I go to Options, Audio, Advanced I see the ASIO listed in the dropdown, but when I select it and then hit OK, I get an error telling me that there was an error in a parameter on the page. I set up ASIO in the Control Panel per instructions and it shows that it is enabled. I must be missing something here......
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/22 23:02:33 (permalink)
    Close and re-open MC. See if that will let you select it.

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/22 23:53:51 (permalink)
    I tried that several times....no help. Re-booted computer also, still will not let me select ASIO. By the way, I have MC4.
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/23 09:07:29 (permalink)
    not sure then why it doesn't work. you might have to use the MME driver mode.

    try changing to that, close and restart MC, then let the wave profiler run when it asks

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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/26 13:32:50 (permalink)
    I reinstalled Music Creator 4, and the menu will still not let me save the ASIO setting. One thing I noticed though was that I don't have an aud.ini file, or a cakewalk.ini file......is this normal ??
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    RE: Tracks not in sync 2008/05/26 14:27:00 (permalink)
    why do you say you don't have an aud.ini file? I'm sure you do, you may just be looking for it in the wrong place. with MC4 it's in My Documents/Cakewalk/Music Creator

    MC won't open without an aud.ini file. it will create one if one doesn't exist.

    if it won't let you change to ASIO or MME, then that's a different problem.

    Thank you for contacting Cakewalk Technical Support. Please try the
    attached reset utility. If that alone fails, please go to your Windows
    Start Menu and click "Run". At the prompt,
    type or paste the following:

    %APPDATA%/CAKEWALK

    This will open a folder in Windows Explorer. Find the folder named
    "Music Creator 4". Right-click on it and choose "rename". Change
    the folder's name to the following:

    "Music Creator 4 backup"

    Launch Music Creator 4 again and allow it to recopy the application
    data.

    Before you launch MC4. Please download this driver mode utility.
    http://www.cakewalk.com/support/sonar/drivermode.zip You can use it to
    launch SONAR in a different driver mode such as ASIO.

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