Tracks won't stay hidden...

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2018/01/21 18:20:01 (permalink)

Tracks won't stay hidden...

All of a sudden in my commercial projects tracks that I've hidden don't stay that way.  If go to the console view or close and then re-open a project...all hidden tracks are visible again.  This is a MAJOR pain.  Can someone tell me what I have (or haven't) done???
 
Plus...I still can't find a way to open the console view full screen as a default.  I don't use screensets or lenses.  I just use a full screen track view and a full screen console view for 90% of what I do.  Until about 6 months ago I never had this problem.  

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    Cactus Music
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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/21 20:33:05 (permalink)
    Possibly this  You've just hit this by mistake. SHIFT H 

     
    And You do need to save a LENS if you have a layout you always use. 
    Set up your screens the way you want them and then save that. I use the Advanced for mine. 
     


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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/21 21:19:21 (permalink)
    If it is just one project, make sure you dont have a locked screenset. It it is multiple projects, make sure you dont have a lense active. 

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/21 22:04:58 (permalink)
    You could move all hidden tracks to a new track folder, that way if you do accidently unhide them you've only got the track folder to unhide again.
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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/22 15:54:08 (permalink)
    I'll check all of this...thanks fellers.
     

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/22 18:07:05 (permalink)
    This has been reported a few times before and it's happened to me on many occasions. I really don't think I've accidentally hit shift-H - I've seen it happen when I've loaded up a project specifically to tidy it up, have hidden a bunch of tracks, hit save and then opened it the next morning to find all the tracks unhidden. I've also had archived & hidden  & archived MIDI tracks completely disappear from the track manager, never to be seen again. It was buggy for sure. 

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/22 21:59:03 (permalink)
    Is it session drummer ? Or a VSI Instrument ?
    Never seen it with Audio tracks but I have seen it with midi VSI's.
    FYI- As Brucey mentioned, try a locked screenset.

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/22 22:15:28 (permalink)
    nope...this is all audio...this is in the voiceover suite.  I think I'm on the latest version of SPLAT.  I tried the above track solution...but no love.  It's pretty maddening because I've got about 8 or 9 raw vo tracks that I've pulled clips from to build 4 spots with FX and music and they clutter up the screen making hard to see which is the master vo track.  Sucks.
     
    Plus...rant on...Why oh why did they change "clone track" to "duplicate track" and, worse, make its default state to NOT duplicate the "events".  That is just crazy.  If it ain't broke...they'll break it.
     

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/23 00:10:58 (permalink)
    Perhaps the universe is telling you to stop recording voiceovers, and go back to writing and recording your excellent original songs.

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/23 18:56:10 (permalink)
    I wish I could do that ol pal!  But, unfortunately, it don't pay the bills...although I wish to heck it would:-)
     

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/24 14:59:20 (permalink)
    yorolpal
     
     
    Plus...rant on...Why oh why did they change "clone track" to "duplicate track" and, worse, make its default state to NOT duplicate the "events".  That is just crazy.  If it ain't broke...they'll break it.
     




    Right click on the Duplicate button to change its default state.
    it only takes a quick search ole pal.
    https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=NewFeatures.05.html

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/26 16:17:31 (permalink)
    Im way too lazy a sumb**ch to have to search for somethin I already been doing for twenty years.  My point is that...I don't believe there was a caterwhaulin outcry that the "clone track" feature just had to be changed or 90% of Sonar users were gonna revolt.  Or did I miss somethin while I was asleep?
     

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/26 16:44:33 (permalink)
    In away this is why I am relieved that Sonar won't possibly ever be updated again.. I might just have time to figure everything out without them screwing it up again with an update :} 

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/26 17:51:02 (permalink)
    yorolpal
    Im way too lazy a sumb**ch to have to search for somethin I already been doing for twenty years.  My point is that...I don't believe there was a caterwhaulin outcry that the "clone track" feature just had to be changed or 90% of Sonar users were gonna revolt.  Or did I miss somethin while I was asleep?
     

    I’m simply failing to understand how this makes things more difficult.
    It doesn’t, in fact it makes things easier.
    Your wish is granted sonar is now in a vacuum and will no longer be updated.
    My point was that sometimes a quick google search is faster than waiting for someone to spoon feed you answers here.

    Sometimes it’s not what 90% of users want it’s about making a better product and as combersome as an “Clone track” button might seem, nothing changed except now it’s easier to clone a track/multiple tracks

    But don’t let me preventing you from complaining.

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/01/26 18:03:23 (permalink)
    The duplicate track feature added functionality and fixes to the old clone function, several based on user requests. See the list here.
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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/02/06 18:38:28 (permalink)
    I really would love to know what causes this problem with hidden tracks unhiding themselves. It's weird because it seems to affect multiple projects simultaneously. I have a 150+ track project with about 50 tracks hidden and every now and then Sonar will unhide all of those tracks - it takes me ages to hide them all again because I have to go through the whole project and make the "hidden/not hidden" decision for every track. 
     
    It hasn't happened in a few weeks but last night it happened (grrr), then right after I'd finished re-hiding everything I opened another project in which this has never happened, and all of the hidden tracks in that project were unhidden too. Makes me wonder if it's a bug which happens on a global scale and not "per project." Between stuff like this and having to reload presets for all of my EQ's 3 or 4 times during a session, it's a wonder I'm making any progress at all. 

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    Re: Tracks won't stay hidden... 2018/02/06 21:43:55 (permalink)
    scook
    The duplicate track feature added functionality and fixes to the old clone function, several based on user requests. See the list here.




    Its possibly one of the most useful functions I've added in my workflow.
    I use all the time. And now I don't need to go into that menu anymore either (along with check/uncheck boxes for Clone tracks properties).

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