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2017/03/06 18:51:17 (permalink)

Trashed my monitors

Bit of a mishap yesterday. Been using these Yamaha NS-10M Studio monitors since the beginning.
There are a few on ebay at near $1000 / pair
 
or what might be better a better way to go...?

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    Leadfoot
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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/06 19:01:14 (permalink)
    How were they trashed? Like blown woofers? If so, would you be able to just get new woofers?
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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/06 19:22:38 (permalink)
    sever distortion, one woofer is rubbing, the other is not but still sounds bad, one tweeter is dead the other is making sound but can't judge the quality.  Wonders if the crossovers are shot too.
    I've spotted tweeters online, haven't found any woofers yet. And don't really know how to test a crossover.

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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/06 20:52:07 (permalink)
    You might want to keep an eye on this eBay auction.
    http://pages.ebay.com/lin...2325189092&alt=web
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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/06 22:57:26 (permalink)
    On the watch list... thanks

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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/06 23:01:22 (permalink)
    yeah I got them all apart now, corresponded with a re-cone guy. $125 each on the woofer, recommended doing both so they sound the same. I know I have one dead tweeter, the other reads about 7 ohms. I don't know if that means it works, but it does make sound. I don't know if replaced if one should do both for the same reason. they seem to run about 120 each.
     
    Crossovers looks good. no signs of damage or burning.

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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/07 00:58:13 (permalink)
    Check this out:
    http://pages.ebay.com/lin...1898877263&alt=web
    One piece drop-in re-cone kits for $89.95 each
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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/07 01:02:24 (permalink)
    Here are some Ns10 tweeters I found for $85 each.
    http://pages.ebay.com/lin...2385151949&alt=web
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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/07 15:43:39 (permalink)
    Thanks Leadfoot. This looks like a good road to go down.

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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/08 01:31:57 (permalink)
    I have a pair of NS-10MC's that I am not using if anyone wants to buy them at a reasonable (sub-$500) price.  I am using active monitors now which work better for my old ears.   I replaced a tweeter about 18 mos. ago.  Otherwise they are in original condition and seem to work fine. The only problem is shipping as I am in Hawaii. 
     
    http://usa.yamaha.com/products/live_sound/speakers/passive_speakers/ns10mc/
     
    http://www.ns-10m.com/NS-10M-PRO-STUDIO-MC.html
     
    Let me know.
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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/08 16:32:13 (permalink)
    When mine die I will happily replace hem with Yamaha's newer powered versions. Reports on reviews are they sound very close to the originals. I myself would not repair them as that money would be better spent on new equipment. Monitors are sort of the heart of your studio and not a place I would want to compromise. It's also getting hard to find appropriate power to drive them. Good power amps are more than the cost of powered speaker pairs. Huge advantages to powered speaker. 
     
    I rebuilt my 30 year old Tannoy 6.5 monitors with parts from a discount speaker suppliers here in Canada. It cost me well under $80 and they are like new and sound great once again. It was easy because Tannoy had used commonly available speakers.  But Nsm 10's have a special white paper cone and there is no direct replacement as a result of that paper no longer being available,. Therefore any re building, I would guess, is not going to result in having the same sound anymore, so what's the point. Without the original speakers it's just a box. 

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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/08 17:25:59 (permalink)
    Even if brand new replacement woofers were available they wouldn't sound like the original ones. Speaker cones soften with age and use and after a few years heavy usage can sound very different to when they were new. As I found out when I replaced a Jensen C10 that had been in a guitar amp for around ten years and had started to come unglued. The replacement was much tighter and brighter than the one it replaced, sounded like a different amp.

    On the plus side the crossovers are probably OK, takes a lot to damage a crossover, but may have been designed for the frequency characteristics of the original and now unavailable cones so how well they'd work with anything else is a bit of a gamble. I say 'may' because the NS-10 was hardly designed with critical studio use in mind but as a not particularly expensive hi-fi speaker.

    Me, I'd look for a pair of active monitors and maybe consider reconing one NS-10 or seeing if one working speaker can be made by cannibalising the pair, and consider using it as a mono mid-range checker.

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    Re: Trashed my monitors 2017/03/09 17:06:41 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the input, I was naturally in a state of panic the day of and after. I have in fact combined the parts to have one working speaker and have a used tweeter and re-cone kit on the way. I also am seriously shopping for a new approach to monitoring.  If the two NS 10s end up sounding significantly different I do like the idea of using one for mono checks. Or perhaps putting them both on the tv.
     
    We go forward :)

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