Noisy Neighbour
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Trilian with X3
Hi, I'm planning to get Trilian and I'm wondering if some of you could share some experience how it behaves in X3 installation and performance wise. I'm only using one drive for everything without any problems so far b.t.w. No different drives for applications, samples and audio data. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanx!
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rtucker55
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/20 16:56:38
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Trilian works great with X3 and win 7 64bit although you may want to add a dedicated sample drive for it. I've never used it with the samples on the system drive before so I really can't say.
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/20 17:06:48
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Do yourself a favor and take rtucker's advice. Get another drive. They're fairly cheap these days and will come in handy for more than Trilian.
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Noisy Neighbour
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/20 17:58:22
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Thanx rtucker, yoropal! good advise! I have a 3 terabyte external drive laying around. I suppose for the large amount of samples trilian uses it makes a lot of sense too hook it up. It also will force me to learn how to handle the data management of all the other softsynths I'm using. I've always bin a bit afraid too mess things up and I haven't found a step by step instruction how do this kind of thing yet. Thanks again for your feedback!
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/20 19:14:15
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Does Trillian have a demo? I bought Trilogy from Spectrasonics with out trying a demo after reading many reviews that said it was awesome, I quickly figured out that it sounded goofy, and the final disappointment was learning that the company insists on charging another $50 for a license transfer. Next time I'll try a demo before I waste money the way I did with Spectrasonics.
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rtucker55
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/20 20:56:47
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Mike, I don't believe that Spectrasonics offer any demo programs due to the size of the sound files. There are video demos on their web site and all over the net though. I understand that is not as good as actually trying it on your personal system but another alternative might be to get a demo in a music store.
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/20 21:37:47
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Noisy Neighbour Hi, I'm planning to get Trilian and I'm wondering if some of you could share some experience how it behaves in X3 installation and performance wise. I'm only using one drive for everything without any problems so far b.t.w. No different drives for applications, samples and audio data. Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanx!
Works in Sonar X3 fine. I'm using the 64bit plugin version in X3b Pro with no problems. I have Trillian on a 2nd drive though, I don't know how it would perform on a single drive. If you do get an external drive make sure it's USB 3 SATA with 7500 rpm 6/GB through put. faster is better and these drives are almost as fast and steady as an internal 2nd drive.
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/20 21:37:55
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/20 21:42:07
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Unfortunately my iPad...for some unknown reason...refuses to block you Mike, ol stick. But it is bracing, and quite gratifying to see that you are still a priggish contrarian...and an idiot, as far as music making and production is concerned, to boot. Thanks for the laugh. They are in such short supply these days.
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/20 23:00:51
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Trilian is great if your budget allows for it. Works fabulous with Sonar X3. I would think a second drive is wise.
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Noisy Neighbour
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/21 02:08:50
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Thanks for your opinions guys! yeah, it's a pitty spectrasonic doesn't offer a lightweight demo version... for a pricy toy like that. It seems to be the best bass module around, so I think I'll go for it. ...and hope I want regret it. Regards
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/21 08:13:17
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Having had the experience of reading the product description and glowing reviews that described the product as the best, most detailed, realistic and articulate bass instrument on the planet, and then having the Spectrasonics rep ask me where I got the idea that it was supposed to sound detailed, realistic, and articulate, I now suspect that Spectrasonics doesn't want people to get a chance to demo the instrument for them self before you get suckered in to paying. best regards, mike
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Noisy Neighbour
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/21 16:30:06
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mike_mccue Having had the experience of reading the product description and glowing reviews that described the product as the best, most detailed, realistic and articulate bass instrument on the planet, and then having the Spectrasonics rep ask me where I got the idea that it was supposed to sound detailed, realistic, and articulate, I now suspect that Spectrasonics doesn't want people to get a chance to demo the instrument for them self before you get suckered in to paying. best regards, mike
Thanks for the warning Mike! All the reviews and sound demos on the net indeed sound rather tempting. What kept me from buying it already besides the pricing is the hassle of installing the gigantic library. The longer I can't make up my mind, the better I get in playing bass guitar myself probably... : )
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/21 16:45:50
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Uh oh...I think we've reached "liar, liar pants on fire" territory.
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Noisy Neighbour
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/21 17:42:09
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yorolpal Uh oh...I think we've reached "liar, liar pants on fire" territory.
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/21 22:43:12
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yorolpal Unfortunately my iPad...for some unknown reason...refuses to block you Mike, ol stick. But it is bracing, and quite gratifying to see that you are still a priggish contrarian...and an idiot, as far as music making and production is concerned, to boot. Thanks for the laugh. They are in such short supply these days.
LMFAO :-)) 'Goofy driver' maybe ? Trilian is great, I'm a bass player and I use both Trilian and real bass, whichever suits the gig at the time. Sure you can make it sound goofy, just like a real bass :-) Bass module is a really huge under statement, it's a pretty deep instrument, just so many things you can do with it. Dig in to it and I'm pretty sure it'll blow you away. Much more than just a bass, it can be a friggin' power house (IMHO). If you get it, be prepared to spend some time with it and I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed. Cheers - Cliff
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/22 06:23:14
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I agree with all the rave reviews... Trillian has a huge resevour of instruments beyond bass guitars, including all sorts of synth samples. It is quite wonderful. I recently picked up a couple basses and am enjoying getting back into it and definately create differently but I totally agree with cliffr on that one... Ya can't play a chapman stick but Trillian's is wonderful... Never had Trilogy, so can't really comment but Omnisphere, RMX and Trillian are first class... maybe they are the "trilogy" you should have waited for, Mike! Or maybe Spectrasonics learned from that experience and upped their game. Anger and comments from you and others may have actually helped us get better successor products! If so, thanks, Mike. I'm sorry Trilogy sucked... I have a lot of those items still on my hard drive but things change...
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/22 07:42:36
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I always new you had it in you olpal. ;-) Spectrasonics should tell people it's a minimum of $50 for the demo.
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/22 10:15:03
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You are so right. Only difference is I get rid of mine every morning just after a cup of coffee:-)
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/22 10:30:41
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...I've been looking around on the internet for some alternatives in the meantime. Trilian is the most sophisticated it seems. I guess I have to think that way : What are my actual needs? Basically It started all with looking for a simple bass solution. I use NI Scarbee Precision Bass or various synth basses that come with the stock synths (Zeta, Dim Pro..ect) and (please don't laugh...or do so hahaha) an Ibanez Mikro shortscale bass since I don't really have bass player hands. That one sounds the most realistic but cheap of course. If I get over the fear of the installation (adding an extra drive seems to be necessary...) I think I'll go for the adventure. All your comments really helped to a desicion (...or made it even harder...? I'll know by the end of next week) Thnx guys!
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/22 10:40:59
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I bought my wife an Ibanez Mikro Bass and I have found that I love it. It sounds great and it is loads of fun to play. I also have a custom, graphite neck P-Bass that I consider my primary bass and the Mikro compares very favorably to it. I hope you enjoy the software. best regards, mike
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/22 10:49:29
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Good Luck with your Adventure Noisy Neighbour! I'm sure everything will work out well for you and It would be hard to beat a VSTi like Trilian with the sound sets installed on a separate drive. Also, I think you will find that Spectrasonics is one of the leading companies that provide excellent support and service. I own their entire line and have always received the highest level of support from them. They care about their Customers. Kind regards, Rick
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Re: Trilian with X3
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/23 09:05:11
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yorolpal Uh oh...I think we've reached "liar, liar pants on fire" territory.
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/23 09:20:02
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Noisy Neighbour ...I've been looking around on the internet for some alternatives in the meantime. Trilian is the most sophisticated it seems. I guess I have to think that way : What are my actual needs? Basically It started all with looking for a simple bass solution. I use NI Scarbee Precision Bass or various synth basses that come with the stock synths (Zeta, Dim Pro..ect) and (please don't laugh...or do so hahaha) an Ibanez Mikro shortscale bass since I don't really have bass player hands. That one sounds the most realistic but cheap of course. If I get over the fear of the installation (adding an extra drive seems to be necessary...) I think I'll go for the adventure. All your comments really helped to a desicion (...or made it even harder...? I'll know by the end of next week) Thnx guys!
Trilian does exactly what it says on the tin and more and is worth every penny in my opinion. There's a good reason that you don't see it discounted very often - they don't need to. If you like what you see in the official demo videos, you won't be disappointed and spectrasonics customer support is absolutely first rate in my experience. Not sure why you "fear" the installation, it's no diffferent to installing anything else, just a bit larger / longer. Looking at your pc spec, I'm surprised that you only have the one HD, but I do agree with the collective wisdom of installing the samples ( of this and other big libraries) to a seperate drive. Also saves you having to re-install it all in the event of an OS drive failure/upgrade.
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lawajava
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/23 11:58:15
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Trilian is great. I learned to use it with ease after I went through the Groove 3 tutorial on it a couple times, and also after watching the Spectrasonics demos on Trilian available on YouTube. The demos are ear opening, and the Groove 3 tutorial is excellent for understanding the how to.
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/24 14:03:04
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Trilian is fantastic. It'll take you a while to grasp just how immense and versatile it is, and the samples sound great. I find I have to HPF them a little more aggressively than most bass libraries though, don't know if anyone else has experienced that. I guess this means there is "more bass" to start off if you want it. One thing to remember is that if you're not using all of the articulations, you can load a "lite" version of the samples which uses considerably less memory. I find myself doing this most of the time.
But as others have said, check out the Groove3 tutorial by Eli Krantzberg. It's a fantastic course and will really unlock the power of Trilian for you. I was stumbling around in the dark until I watched it (although there are also lots of videos on the Spectrasonics site as well).
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/24 15:17:24
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Noisy Neighbour since I don't really have bass player hands.
OK, that is about the funniest thing I've ever read about bass. Have you ever seen the size of Jack Bruce's hands? His fingers must be .75" long. Seriously he has hands half the size of mine. But I'm less than half the player he is.
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Noisy Neighbour
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Re: Trilian with X3
2014/02/24 15:48:38
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paulo
Noisy Neighbour ...I've been looking around on the internet for some alternatives in the meantime. Trilian is the most sophisticated it seems. I guess I have to think that way : What are my actual needs? Basically It started all with looking for a simple bass solution. I use NI Scarbee Precision Bass or various synth basses that come with the stock synths (Zeta, Dim Pro..ect) and (please don't laugh...or do so hahaha) an Ibanez Mikro shortscale bass since I don't really have bass player hands. That one sounds the most realistic but cheap of course. If I get over the fear of the installation (adding an extra drive seems to be necessary...) I think I'll go for the adventure. All your comments really helped to a desicion (...or made it even harder...? I'll know by the end of next week) Thnx guys!
Trilian does exactly what it says on the tin and more and is worth every penny in my opinion. There's a good reason that you don't see it discounted very often - they don't need to. If you like what you see in the official demo videos, you won't be disappointed and spectrasonics customer support is absolutely first rate in my experience. Not sure why you "fear" the installation, it's no diffferent to installing anything else, just a bit larger / longer. Looking at your pc spec, I'm surprised that you only have the one HD, but I do agree with the collective wisdom of installing the samples ( of this and other big libraries) to a seperate drive. Also saves you having to re-install it all in the event of an OS drive failure/upgrade.
...it's more the installation of the libaries to a seperate drive. I never bothered with it until now, but I will have to get into that territory sooner or later anyway. Some catching up to do here. Actually it should be rather easy to choose the directory where the sound libaries go during the install process...
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