True Piano (or any VST softsynth) --- Where are recorded parameters (events) stored?

Greetings,
I was trekking along and Piano voice just disappeared.  Checking all my routes, nothing muted, nothing misrouted, vol was good, bus was good.  All was right with the world.  yet...nothing out of the Piano that was literally *just* playing. 
 
So, I opened the Softsynth properties (Virtual Instrument GUI) and  there was the culpret... VOL slider was pulled down to nothing.   pushed it up.   Spacebar to play.  Didn't play at all.   clicked on the Track view.  Spacebar.  Track plays.  Piano slider down to 0000 again.   
 
At this point.  I assume I have a zero vol data crumb tucked away somewhere.  But I'm not entirely sure thats the case.   Putting the NOW at ANY spot in the song, this same behavior happens.  crazy....  dumped the piano and added a new one.
 
slider doesnt go to 000  BUT, does jump to  -4
 
I want to eliminate 'ghost parameters' by exposing the event list for sliders, twisty knobs and stuff on VST panels.   Dunno where that might be.  Anyone?

If you're using a Simple Instrument track, split it to separate MIDI and Audio tracks, and check the MIDI volume. That's going to get sent every time you start playback. You can set it back to the default of 101, and/or right-click it, and choose Disable Control so it will be ignored, and the volume will stay wherever you set it in TruePianos.

Widetrack


This is a little OT, but has to do with True Pianos. hope no one minds what ought to be a slight and brief diversion.

The UI for True Piano suddenly changed on me when I'd done no upadtes or other changes. It always used to be a nice picture of a piano, but now it's just a screen with a set of radio buttons.

Anyone know what's up with that?

Look in the upper right for a button that switches b/w the "Advanced" and "Basic" interface.

-Susan

a similar thing happens with truepiano here, the reverb slider keeps jumping to 71 every time i hit play. i can't use trupiano anymore because of it.

You probably have a control message embedded in the file. Look at the Event List view to get rid of it. 

daveny5

a similar thing happens with truepiano here, the reverb slider keeps jumping to 71 every time i hit play. i can't use trupiano anymore because of it.

You probably have a control message embedded in the file. Look at the Event List view to get rid of it. 

that's what i thought too, but there is only notes in the event list.

it was not isolated to jsut one project. it was happening to many, if not all. i have since delete t/p from all of my projects because of it.

brundlefly

daveny5

a similar thing happens with truepiano here, the reverb slider keeps jumping to 71 every time i hit play. i can't use trupiano anymore because of it.

You probably have a control message embedded in the file. Look at the Event List view to get rid of it. 

Like MIDI Volume, that could also be due to track control settings, except Chorus and Reverb are now in the Inspector.

hi brundlefly,
i'm not sure i understand what you're suggesting is the problem.
could you please explain this just a bit.
thanks,
matt

btw, this occurs at any placement of the now-time just as KeithLuedke says.

thats a good workaround.  Make it refresh.  thx for the tip.

The other thing I'd check is if you delete all clips in the track and just play, does the same thing continue to happen? That's a quick way to isolate if there is some rogue midi data hanging around.

lorneyb2


On page 23 of the Truepiano's PDF manual is a list of all the CC's that it uses so you could get an idea of what controller is the culprit as well.

yep, found out it was cc91.

by default these controls are disabled, if you start the project with SONAR
but when importing MIDI from somewhere - it can have those things set

to disable them:

- Open Console
- Go Options->FX->Show Assignable Controls
- Find the track on the console, check that CC91 is in parenthesis. If it is not -
  then rightclick and select 'Disable control'.

CC91 is a reverb control, and SONAR sends it to the track always, if it is enabled.