funkybluesman
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Trying to use Sonar 8.5 with M-Audio FastTrack Pro and having major issues
Wondering if anyone else out there has got an M-Audio Fast Track Pro successfully working with Sonar 8.5, I upgraded to Sonar 8.5 some time ago when I got a new Windows 7 machine, but haven't had time to do much with it, now I'm trying to get into that. I have my guitar plugged into my computer through the M-Audio Fast-Track Pro, and have headphones plugged into there to pick up the output. I can hear the guitar nicely through those headphones and can hear the audio coming out of the computer. When I record, I can hear everything well and see the audio track being laid down. However, when I stop recording, Sonar does some processing on the audio track and actually moves everything slightly to the left so that it's now all out of time with the rest of the tracks, everything playing just a fraction before it's supposed to. Plus, I hear some popping type sounds in the playback like it's clipping or something, even though I've got the levels set low enough to avoid any clipping. I've tried looking through all the settings, I even went online and downloaded the latest patches for Sonar 8.5 and also for the M-Audio device, but it didn't make any difference. I've also gone through all the options and settings and can't find anything that makes any difference. Hopefully someone out there can help me. Also, when I run the Wave Profiler it keeps coming up saying that the best the M-Audio FastTrack Pro can do is 48khz, 16/24-bit. But it's supposed to be able to do 96KHz. Rather annoying as even the sound card built into my laptop will do 192KHz 24-bit, it's just a bit annoying having to plug everything into the Microphone input on the laptop!
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Kalle Rantaaho
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Re:Trying to use Sonar 8.5 with M-Audio FastTrack Pro and having major issues
2012/04/09 04:20:32
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I take it you're using fresh ASIO drivers for your fast track? Surely someone more knowledgeable chimes in soon. I remember reading about exactly the same behaviour on the forum several times. Did you use search to try to find solution? No use comparing anything to the integrated chip, because you can't do multitracking with it anyway. IMO, you will not win anything by using 96 kHz. If you use 1000 dollar mics recording a symphony orchestra in a superb studio, then, maybe. But I know some disagree.
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funkybluesman
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Re:Trying to use Sonar 8.5 with M-Audio FastTrack Pro and having major issues
2012/04/09 07:57:44
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I seem to have got it working now. I basically fiddled with different settings until something worked. I saw your comment about "ASIO drivers". I had downloaded the latest driver for the FastTrack Pro. I don't have a clue what ASIO is, but I saw it as an option in one of the drop down lists under options, so I tried selecting it. It told me that taking that selection basically stopped the FastTrack Pro from working at all. I tried a couple of the other settings in the same drop down box. One of them was MME or something like that. When I selected that it said it wouldn't take effect until I restarted the application. So I closed down and when I went to open it again it gave an error saying the application failed to initialise the audio device or something like that and wouldn't open. So I disconnected the FastTrack Pro and tried opening again. It opened this time. Then when it was open I turned it back on and it turned on fine, and now when I try and select input options instead of just having FastTrack Pro there, it has MME devices and lists FastTrack Pro under that. So selected one of them and tried recording stuff again and it seems to now be working perfectly with that option. Note, I did try the forum search before posting, but the search terms I tried didn't come up with anything useful. It can be difficult searching forums. I find I often either get no search results or thousands of unrelated ones. But also, I have seen a few that had some similarities, but no clear solution listed, but at some point the person posts that they got it working, but never specify how. Hence I thought I'd put the details in here. Also, someone might see it and respond with more helpful details still. But even if not, it looks like I've got it working in a usable way now at least!
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Beagle
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Re:Trying to use Sonar 8.5 with M-Audio FastTrack Pro and having major issues
2012/04/09 08:31:55
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you don't want to use MME - MME is the slowest and worst routed protocol available. I suspect your laptop soundcard will NOT do 192k. a lot of "chip on the motherboard" soundcards have erroneous drivers which will report to MME or WDM that it can do rates which it really cannot do. it's an example of poorly written drivers. the Fast Track Pro should have good available ASIO drivers. if you are certain you've downloaded the latest drivers from m-audio's website and installed them, then go back to OPTIONS>AUDIO>DRIVER MODE and change it to ASIO. then click APPLY. when you say last time it "told me that taking that selection basically stopped the FastTrack Pro from working at all." - that's not good information. if it tells you that again, please write down EXACTLY what it says and report that back here and we can help you from there.
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strikinglyhandsome1
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Re:Trying to use Sonar 8.5 with M-Audio FastTrack Pro and having major issues
2012/04/09 13:38:55
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I would use the Asio drivers. Set anything that has 128, 256, 512 etc to 256. This will work and not give any dropouts. Stick to 48k 24bit or 44.1k 24bit and mess around when you know it's all working. Make sure you have the latest drivers from the m-audio website.
post edited by strikinglyhandsome1 - 2012/04/09 13:41:12
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Chris S
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Re:Trying to use Sonar 8.5 with M-Audio FastTrack Pro and having major issues
2012/04/11 17:20:40
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Agreed Strikingly handsome, ASIO are the drivers I used when I had the Fasttrack Pro. Just wanted to add that the moving audio forwards is Sonar's latency adjustment. Sonar thinks your soundcard needs more latency adjustment then it actually does. You can easily change this setting manually in the audio settings window. I usually left the buffer at 512 with my old computer, although 256 should be fine for up to 12 tracks.
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haiser
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Re:Trying to use Sonar 8.5 with M-Audio FastTrack Pro and having major issues
2012/04/12 10:54:15
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So selected one of them and tried recording stuff again and it seems to now be working perfectly with that option.
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Cactus Music
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Re:Trying to use Sonar 8.5 with M-Audio FastTrack Pro and having major issues
2012/04/12 14:19:28
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I had a Fast Track Pro and mostly used it with Sonar 7.Did a lot of work with it but it was never smooth sailing. My unit was most likely defective as I've never seen anyone else complaining. It would just stop working at random and had to be re set. Even when just playing music from my laptop. It also had a high pitched scream in the background unless I used the SDPIF. It would default to 16 bit and would not let me change this unless I disabled Outputs 3/4? My conclusion was it never ever worked like it should. Even under W7 64 bit and the new drivers it behaved the same way. The pre amps were also very marginal so I never used them. The phantom power (even using the wall wart), would not carry though a 120' snake. That's my review :>
post edited by Cactus Music - 2012/04/12 14:21:50
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