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2011/01/14 14:44:26 (permalink)

Tuff enough...

The jobless thread and American excuses got me thinking....
 
Some may remember about the family of my grand-daughters friend that see asked
us to help. Heartbreaking. And it was right after Christmas last year. Very hard to see and we
helped. I remember that I really didn't care where the job went or why....I was just wondering if I
could help feed this family and maybe have a late Christmas for those kids.
 
A month or so ago a friend at work was talking about his son wrecking his truck and he needed to
get it out of the wrecking yard...no big deal as his son was Ok. ( I thought)
Days later I hear the truck is still in the yard so I asked why.
The story....my friend has been paying for supporting his son and his brother, both with families, for over a year.
Now he was pow and didn't have the money to get the truck. It's taking all he has to support them. Man! Three families. On top of it his son didn't keep insurance up!
 
Easy to see that my friend was stretched. I told him not to worry about the truck and just keep focused on
his family.
It was not cheap. The wrecking yard hit was over 600. then the whole front end repair/replaced.  But his son has his truck and got a new job!
I know he'll repay me down the road when he can breath. Or not. Doesn't matter it's fixed.
 
The reason I'm posting this is not to blow a horn. I don't have one. It's that I think the way things are
is way to much for me to figure out and I can't change the way things are BUT, I can listen and I can help
people around me. I don't expect them to ask for help...they have pride. I have to be listening and ready to
offer help if I can. I told the story because I walk the walk. Ain't no biggie.
 
Until things turn around I just think it's a good time to keep one's ears open and help one another if you can.
That's why I work. To help myself, my family, my friends and others along the way. Not really hard if you're listening and if you want to help. But that's just the way I see it. If you don't...I ain't judging you. Peace.
 
 
 
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    bapu
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 14:50:32 (permalink)
    You're one of the good ones Michael.
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 15:14:44 (permalink)
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    I can't change the way things are

    That's where you're wrong.
    That's where most americans are wrong.

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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 15:25:19 (permalink)
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    spacey


    I can't change the way things are

    That's where you're wrong.
    That's where most americans are wrong.

    Thank you. Next time quote the whole sentence instead of picking pieces and using out of context.
     
     
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 15:34:38 (permalink)
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    spacey


    I can't change the way things are

    That's where you're wrong.
    That's where most americans are wrong.

    Thank you. Next time quote the whole sentence instead of picking pieces and using out of context.
     
     

    Sorry, You seem to be angry.
     
    I didn't mean it as a personal attack.
    I think what you did is very admirable.
    I just think too often we as Americans think that we don't have the means or ability to change what is going on in our country.
    I don't believe that is true.
    It isn't an easy thing to be done but it can be done if enough of us get envolved.

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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 15:39:05 (permalink)
    A lot of good people have lost their homes, cars, property. I'd have no problem helping out someone who is really trieing to help themselves and is honest about their immediate need.  As hard as it sounds, many people should have seen this coming and prepared for it. Too many people live far beyond their means. You just can't pay everyones bills. It's a hard lesson for all of us and this Country. 

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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 15:44:53 (permalink)
    Not angry. Simply correcting a mis-quote.

    I agree completely with "if enough of us get envolved".
    I believe that has been a problem in this country since the '60's.
    I could be wrong but up until then the people's voice was strong. And
    they would gather and make it stronger when needed.
    Now it seems a group of 5 can't agree on any one issue.

    The same people that **** at the top of their lungs at jobs leaving
    the US are yelling in the Wal-Mart parking lot with their bag of Chinese goods.

    Now, how do we fix that? I don't know and until I do I'll be helping the little bit
    of the world I live in...that's all I can figure out to do right now.
    I have to disagree with you....kinda....I don't feel it's admirable....it's just the
    right thing, but thank you. I'm just thankful I still have a job and can help.
    And I may be the one needing tomorrow...who knows?
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 19:14:15 (permalink)
    Way to go, Michael. :-)
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 20:10:52 (permalink)
    Crg


    A lot of good people have lost their homes, cars, property. I'd have no problem helping out someone who is really trieing to help themselves and is honest about their immediate need.  As hard as it sounds, many people should have seen this coming and prepared for it. Too many people live far beyond their means. You just can't pay everyones bills. It's a hard lesson for all of us and this Country. 


    Your right Craig. Or at least I agree. Easy access to credit/debt and it easily became a trap. Risk takers given opportunities for big profits or
    losing everything.
    But there are so many that the economy has just strapped them to barely making it from check to check. Any major complication puts them in the danger zone of losing something they need to continue, for no fault of their own. Or the millions that were just told to go home.

    I thought it important to post the only thing I know when folks are talking about how bad things are. Try to help them if you can. Keep your ears open and if you get the chance, help them. I don't get anything out of posting happenings in my life here. But I'm not somebody to
    make a recommendation without the will to do it myself. How can I say, to bad and think there is nothing I can do when there is.
    You do know there are people in your life that you would help. What I learned was to be aware...to listen and recognize and understand their
    problem. If I didn't they wouldn't ask for the help, their pride could cost them dearly and we all understand that pride. It's just being aware to
    prevent another family from that spiral of destruction.

    Every year I have taken a pay cut for the last 15 years. When we started the transition into "world economy" any American that thought the rest of the world would be raised to our "level" was mistaken. Their "level" may be raised but ours will be lowered. A "balance" is the target. We're simply not alone, nobody is. Every aspect of our lives will be effected in some way.

    Trying to understand the US is crazy for me.
    This year our tax laws were changed. Insurance rates naturally like clockwork went up. Insurance rates alone have taken every raise I had
    for so many years it's now just a "natural" expectation.

    The tax cut I received that was proudly announced to put money in folks pocket and boost the economy  was in my Social Security deduction....? figure that..a system put in place to help folks in retirement and it's robbed to cover other expenses and hung over our heads as a troubled fund going broke that so many Americans will need and especially the ones that just lost their 401K retirement funds and not enough to time to rebuild- that's were my tax break is from?? The fund for retirement...and all the time they raise the retirement age..?? That's how "they" are going to boost the economy?? It simply means that the insurance companies bite was off-set.
    And I'm told to feel lucky as many people I know have had to drop insurance. They can't afford it. There rates went so high that they would
    literally be working to pay for insurance and gas to get to the job. Frigin' Crazy. It simply means they want the people that can still get insured to pay or cover the ones that can't. How many families am I covering? More than my own is certainty.

    When we combine the big business decisions, banking and investment crooks and a government that thinks a tax rate deduction will
    put money in peoples pocket that won't even off-set what the insurance company just reamed them for,  will boost our economy....well if you believe that and think we can fix it.....you know a lot more than me and I hope everybody gets on board to help you.

    Until we see major changes I have one faith for success- take care of myself so I can help those around me. Just the only thing I know
    to recommend and live by until then or until I can't.

    I post this thinking it's not political. If Cakewalk see's it differently....see ya.




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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 20:24:57 (permalink)
    Financial literacy would be a good start...teach it in high school...

    Help where you can...
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 20:34:28 (permalink)
    Crg


    A lot of good people have lost their homes, cars, property. I'd have no problem helping out someone who is really trieing to help themselves and is honest about their immediate need.  As hard as it sounds, many people should have seen this coming and prepared for it. Too many people live far beyond their means. You just can't pay everyones bills. It's a hard lesson for all of us and this Country. 

    I saw a lot of my contemporaries overspending on new cars, second homes, super vacations. My wife and I never did that, though unlike many of them, we could have afforded it; instead I drive an 11-year old car and bought a house that we can afford on one salary. We bank a lot of money every month and accelerate the payments on our mortgage. 


    It burns us up to no end to have to pay for others' mistakes, or greed.  The nest egg we are saving for retirement will NO DOUBT be used against us when Social Security finally does Means Testing. So we will have paid into a government "retirement" account a couple hundred thousand bucks and probably not see much of it, if any at all.  And on top of it all, I get berated by millionaire politicians who scream how I don't pay my fair share!


    When John Kerry ran for President, his billionaire wife paid less than 12.5% in federal taxes, due to the truly Rich having opportunities to stash their money in non-taxable places. I have no problem with that at all. But then to turn around and try to say couples making $250K are rich and not paying their fair share is beyond the pale.
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 20:42:32 (permalink)
    all spaceys stuff

    Spacey, you are a good man.
    You have sound principles, and integrity.

    Worth a million.

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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/14 20:50:32 (permalink)
    Thanks Janet! I know you've done and will do the same.

    Thanks Eric. I believe we all are. We only have to remember sometimes...why we're here.
    I don't feel like I'm reminding the folks around here either. Just cheering us on really.
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/15 02:41:17 (permalink)
    Spacey, You are far better with words than I.

    Your heart and mind are in the right place and your actions speak to who you are.

    Good job.........

    It does matter.

     
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/15 08:09:01 (permalink)
    It burns us up to no end to have to pay for others' mistakes, or greed. The nest egg we are saving for retirement will NO DOUBT be used against us when Social Security finally does Means Testing. So we will have paid into a government "retirement" account a couple hundred thousand bucks and probably not see much of it, if any at all. And on top of it all, I get berated by millionaire politicians who scream how I don't pay my fair share!

     
    Sad but true.

    Craig DuBuc
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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/15 08:54:30 (permalink)
    zungle


    Spacey, You are far better with words than I.

    Your heart and mind are in the right place and your actions speak to who you are.

    Good job.........

    It does matter.




    And you know it matters. When we can find time to spend with our young ones and teach them music
    as you do with the neighborhood kids..it matters to us all.
    We are no different...none of us...when we are "in tune", not distracted or upset about issues.
    That is when we are happy. We may not be changing the world as some may say, but we are.

    So we just have to try and stay "in-tune". Sometimes you might
    have to tell the guitarist to tune up that thing. This is no different.
    I think you're "in-tune" and sometimes get out...just like me and everybody else.
    Now's the time for us to get in tune the best we can.
    I think that's a good analogy for how I look at people. However we all got here I don't know but I think
    we all tick to the same clock.

    Thank you Zungle. And good job with the kids! Don't think they'll forget. They may or may not remember
    the guitar stuff but they'll remember you. You planted and you are planting seeds in those little folks
    that will be a very special part of them. But you know that and I would be comfortable saying most
    everybody that hangs around here knows that.
    Our actions speak louder than words so if you feel your words are not as good...it doesn't matter really.
    You helping all those kids says it all.  Even though you may have upsetting issues in your life you
    are taking the time for others. Excellent. Tuff enough.

    I think that would make a cool tune...Zungle rocking the neighborhood kids!










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    Re:Tuff enough... 2011/01/15 10:42:08 (permalink)
    Man... I see both sides to this issue.

    My wife and I were responsible. We bought a house we could afford, and paid it off early. We drive older cars, and try to save every dollar we can.

    We see people who spent to the edge and beyond. They are now in big trouble financially. Unfortunately, it's the majority of people who are now in this situation..... on the wrong side of the conversation with their banks. In 2010, 1 million homes were foreclosed in the USA, and the official story is that the number will be even greater this year, up 20% from what I saw recently... the pain is not over and I believe it will continue for quite some time.

    Regardless.... we are ALL in this mess together. I'm on a relatively secure footing. So from that position, I am able to help some of the people around me that I know are not as fortunate. Whether it was their own ignorance of economics that got them there or circumstances that converged on them such as job loss, medical, or other events beyond their control, they need help, and very often they do not qualify for, or are already receiving the maximum aide the govt will give, but it is not enough.

    I'm not able to help every one, and I screen carefully those that I do help.  I have, with the cooperation of my wife and family, given assistance in the form of several bags of groceries, gifts and clothes for the kids, and free work running a phone line or a computer line for them. As a member of a Christan Motorcyclists group, we also, as a group, do charitable things like feeding people who have been vetted by a church. It's awesome to see the gratitude on the face of the moms and dads when they get a weeks worth of groceries or clothes and gifts for their kids... it's one less thing they need to spend money on....for a week. I can't afford to save their home, but I can buy them some food.

    We have to help each other where and when we can.... One day, God forbid...I or you might be needing assistance. I sure hope someone would be there.
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