Turn off Hyperthreading

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RE: Still curious.... 2004/03/04 23:37:19 (permalink)
I was really hoping that I would get a reply from JYoung or CodeTech...

I'm interested in your responses...

I really want to know if I'm wrong..... I've got a lot of systems here that I may follow your advice on....

& I'm not trying to be a smarty pants... I really want to know!
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RE: Still curious.... 2004/03/05 00:19:50 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: tmrpro

I'm still curious if Windows and non-hyperthreaded CPUs allow to MultiTask multiple single threaded processes without HyperThreading?


Windows uses a mix of cooperative and preemptive multitasking.

Basically, windows sends messages to each running application from time to time, the application responds to the message. If an application is taking too much time, Windows can pre-empt it's timeslice and move on. This works great for well-behaved applications, the problem is the badly behaved apps (read: poorly written).

One example of a poorly written app that will dominate your system is the typical CD-ROM device driver.

Hyperthreading changes the way this is accomplished, even the worst behaved app will still get time taken away when required under hyperthreading. This is why hyperthreading improves the perceived responsiveness of the system... the UI almost always gets some attention.

As someone else pointed out, sometimes this will result in a small net loss of overall performance, but more often it results in improvements.
< Message edited by CodeTech -- 3/4/2004 10:21:20 PM >
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RE: Still curious.... 2004/03/05 04:38:29 (permalink)
One reason to turn Hyperthreading off if you have 2 physical cpus in your machine.

If you use any products with PACE protection in them, your machine will crash eventually with PACE causing an error.

This also happens if you happen to have 4 cpus in a box. it's just a matter of having more than 2 cpus.

This is due to the PACE driver.


Otherwise hyperthreading helps in performance most of the time.
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RE: Still curious.... 2004/03/05 09:58:52 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: tmrpro
I'm still curious if Windows and non-hyperthreaded CPUs allow to MultiTask multiple single threaded processes without HyperThreading?


Yes.
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RE: Still curious.... 2004/03/06 21:52:14 (permalink)
so, should I turn it off? Did you get your answer?

Thanks

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RE: Still curious.... 2004/03/07 06:24:13 (permalink)
I can't see why anyone would want to turn HT off unless your Motherboard or CPU doesn't support it. Nearly every P4 motherboard Made from the last 6 months uses HT. I recently installed a fresh OS of XP Pro and unfortunatly I didn't get HT to show up on the install and my system ran like a snail compared to when I used HT on XP Home. I reinstalled and got HT to work and it ran basically twice as fast in most things especially with sound and video.

I also find that Sonar 3 will only use one CPU from using Task Manager and right clicking sonar - "Set Affinity". I usualy click to use both CPUs and also set Prioriy to "High" or "Realtime" and this is all done in Task Manager and you can also see if you have two CPU's running easily here as well in the "Performance" Window but you may need to turn on "View > CPU History > "One Graph Per CPU"
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RE: Still curious.... 2004/03/11 00:01:03 (permalink)
I just found more info on HT & Sonar from Cakewalk: http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/kb2003181.asp

Looks like Sonar doesn't use it directly but I think it would be useful to use it as there are always other apps running in the background. They hint that Sonar may make use of HT in the future. If you use Rewire & Sonar then you will benefit from HT...
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RE: Still curious.... 2004/03/11 06:40:52 (permalink)
I think that's and old article made before the 3.1 (and 3.1.1) update....

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