Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar

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Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar

Hi all,
 
Time and time again, I find that people ask how to use midi instruments here on the forums.  I have created a short (13 minutes) video to describe the process of adding a VST to a track, the various insert options that you will get, the use of TTS-1 for assigning instruments to different channels of the synth, a description of the path the data takes, and the manual creation of new midi tracks to feed additional channels in a multi-timbral synth.
 
If you are trying to figure out how to use a VST (especially if it's multi-timbral, or specifically the TTS-1), please go to the Sonar page of my website and click the button to watch the video at www.blades85.com
 
I hope this is useful information for the people who need it.

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    thomasabarnes
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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 13:43:36 (permalink)
    Hiya Blades:

    This is good of you. I'm sure those new to using multi-timbral instruments will find the video useful.

    You have been providing tutorial videos for this community throughout the years, and I just want to say thanks for sharing another helpful and useful video tutorial.


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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 14:15:45 (permalink)
    Nifty tute, Blades.  Very clearly outlined, un-rushed.  I enjoyed it, piano clam and all--ha!

    Interesting the way you set up new MIDI tracks by Cloning and then reconfiguring parameters for the new track.  I always just right click, add a track.  Same results 'twould seem.

    Thanks.

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 15:19:54 (permalink)
    Blades,
     
    Nice job. Great info!

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 16:46:38 (permalink)
    Great job Blades.  I just referred your site for another thread that was running into a problem with understanding how to set it up.  This will be a great resource for the whole forum as it is one of the most frequent problems newbies run into and is sometimes so difficult to explain to them.
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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 17:10:58 (permalink)
    Thanks for the feedback guys.  Glad it worked ok for you and you found it useful.

    The reason I cloned the track is that way you don't have to set all of the parameters for the ins and outs, just change the channel.  And it makes it pretty dead easy to create new tracks for multi-timbral instruments. 

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 17:32:09 (permalink)
    This is great! Even though I've gotten pretty good and setting this kinda stuff up, I've already discovered "synth track folder" which is of course, very nifty!

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 20:24:07 (permalink)
    Yeah that's a good video...nice work
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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 20:40:27 (permalink)
    thanks blades.
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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 20:47:25 (permalink)
    Now if you would do one to teach them how to do a Forum Search, it will be wonderful! 

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 21:46:28 (permalink)
    Good job but i thought the TTS-1 is multi-timbral how come you keep saying it's multi-tambral.
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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 21:52:50 (permalink)
    Blades, thanks so much. Excellent explanation.

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 22:05:05 (permalink)
    michaelna


    Good job but i thought the TTS-1 is multi-timbral how come you keep saying it's multi-tambral.


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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 22:10:13 (permalink)
    michaelna


    Good job but i thought the TTS-1 is multi-timbral how come you keep saying it's multi-tambral.


    hehe--You want Tiiiiimber, as in what you yell when a tree is falling? 

    actually, it's a good note - Blades, it's nice to hear someone pronouncing the word correctly. 

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 22:35:08 (permalink)
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    michaelna


    Good job but i thought the TTS-1 is multi-timbral how come you keep saying it's multi-tambral.


    hehe--You want Tiiiiimber, as in what you yell when a tree is falling? 

    actually, it's a good note - Blades, it's nice to hear someone pronouncing the word correctly. 

    rbowser


    What makes you say that tambre is the right pronounciation for timbre?
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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 23:21:26 (permalink)

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/20 23:28:01 (permalink)
    That was really good Blades. Picked up some simple tricks I didn't know about - Thanks a lot

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 00:00:29 (permalink)
    ya i  used  that plug 1 time and went strait to SD2 now on SD3 for drums, should of looked deaper its very usefull thanks, but that just cleared up the right tecniqe for this setup thanks 2 times 1 rst for behernger vid
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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 00:42:03 (permalink)
    Thanks a lot Blade...appreciate you taking the time to record the video and post!

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 06:23:19 (permalink)
    I must say that Blades did an outstanding job in that video. But I think we can use "multi sound gizmo" to avoid problems of pronunciation here after.  A mono synth then becomes a "single sound gizmo".

    Sonar can become the "whatchamacallit".  

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 06:41:34 (permalink)
    Excellent resource for our ever increasing band of newbies and a terrific resource for us to use in offering them help.
    Thanks for doing this. With a little tighter scripting you could easily make this a pro venture.

    Nice to hear the correct pronunciation of 'timbre' being used. Its all in the detail.

    BTW. Excellent audio levels in that video. All too often I've found video tutorials on audio a little lacking in the level department. Ironic really.

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 08:20:54 (permalink)
    Blades:
    Thank you for the videos - really well done. Learned something, and I've been around Sonar since version 3. One request if I may - could you do one for using external hardware inserts?

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 09:34:32 (permalink)
    Jack

    The only external hardware device I could use for the purpose would be my quadraverb, but I suppose that might cover the basics.  I don't even know if the thing powers up any more, but if I can find the QV, figure out how to do the external insert, and find the time to record, edit, convert, incorporate into web page, and upload, I'll try to create it.

    thanks for the comments - I'm glad that this worked out to be useful.

    I'm not much of a scripting guy and I've heard from a number of people that the reason that the videos are effective is that they are a little on the loose side and don't feel so scripted.  I think people can relate a little better or something.  I recorded this in two passes, one to get a feel for what I will cover and the steps, and one to record the final.  I actually had to edit out a number of bad starts before I got that one right keyboard part in the second take...I also intentionally left the "double recorded track" in there, because it shows what CAN and does happen.

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    Then there's the export from Camtasia format and the web page hosting.  I have made this all relatively easy on myself at this point, but it still takes a good bit of time.  This is why I don't post more than I do - not because I don't want to, but it really is a big effort to do, so I appreciate the positive comments and the fact that they are useful to people.  Now if there were only some income from it!

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 10:11:19 (permalink)
    One of the many things I liked in the video was when you accidentally kept the record button on the prior track when recording the new one. Maybe you did it intentionally for all I know. This is such a common mistake to make, and can enforce this oversight to the viewer to remember things like this.

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 10:24:38 (permalink)
    michaelna


    rbowser


    michaelna


    Good job but i thought the TTS-1 is multi-timbral how come you keep saying it's multi-tambral.


    hehe--You want Tiiiiimber, as in what you yell when a tree is falling? 

    actually, it's a good note - Blades, it's nice to hear someone pronouncing the word correctly. 

    rbowser


    What makes you say that tambre is the right pronounciation for timbre?
     
    Any musician with any sort of formal training whatsoever knows that the term "timbre" is pronounced as "TAM-ber"...
     
    It's been that way for many, many years...
     

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 12:44:36 (permalink)
    I left Sonar a few years back mostly because of it's, lets just say, different way of handling MIDI.  Circumstances with Samplitude Music Studio and a sweet deal from Cakewalk has me back here contemplating a move back to Sonar via 8.5 PE.  I had heard Cakewalk had become a bit more "modern" (read like other DAWS) with the way it now handled MIDI (not my term, but MusicRadar.com's).
    I was exited to see that there was a toot on this very subject...then somewhat disappointed when you didn't chose the simple instrument.  Is that what they mean? Not having a folder track like the old versions of Sonar?
    Good job though, regardless. 
    Gotta give the 8.5 trial a go I guess.
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    I had heard Cakewalk had become a bit more "modern" (read like other DAWS) with the way it now handled MIDI (not my term, but MusicRadar.com's).
    I think that the "simple instrument tracks" are just a cosmetic way to hide what's really going on (IOW, nothings really changed under the hood - only hidden where you can't see it.)

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 12:52:29 (permalink)
    Sungod


    I was exited to see that there was a toot on this very subject...then somewhat disappointed when you didn't chose the simple instrument.

    He's not going to choose a simple instrument track for a multi-timbral instrument demonstration.

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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 13:11:13 (permalink)
    I think that the "simple instrument tracks" are just a cosmetic way to hide what's really going on (IOW, nothings really changed under the hood - only hidden where you can't see it.)

     
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    Re:Tutorial - How to insert and use VST instruments in Sonar 2010/03/21 13:16:18 (permalink)
    are you going to do a video about setting up VSTi templates?

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