UFOs, Visitations, Ancient Aliens...Questions I can never seem to answer

paulo


 I'm very open to the whole alien thing - to me it stands to reason that we can't possibly be the only species floating around in infinite space, 

SteveStrummerUK


I would say that the probability of extra-terrestrial, 'intelligent', non-supernatural life is 100%.

As to whether they've visited earth, I doubt this very much.

drewfx1

daryl1968

SteveStrummerUK


I would say that the probability of extra-terrestrial, 'intelligent', non-supernatural life is 100%.

As to whether they've visited earth, I doubt this very much.

if you read Chariots of the Gods by Erich Von Daniken, that most of the series Ancient Aliens bases it's theories on, it makes some very interesting arguments about alien visitors 'pre-history'. If aliens didn't visit earth, historians have got things very wrong about the human time-line. 

Chariots of the Gods is not taken seriously by scientists. You might want to check on how many of the claims have been (quite easily) proven patently false.

foxwolfen

space_cowboy


The stats are straightforward
Earth is 4.5 Billion years old
The universe is nearly 13 Billion.
==>There is the potential for civilizations to be billions of years older than us.

There are about 100 billion galaxies.  That is 100*10^9
They have about 100 billion stars each. 
==>That implies 10,000 * 10^18 or 1x10^22 stars

Recent observations indicate that it looks like there are way way more stars with planets than ever previously thought.

So if you do the (galaxies*stars/galaxy*planets/star*some probability factor that life emerges) equation, you still get huge numbers.  

If we are relatively young versus the rest of the universe, then you have to figure we are about average (no way well above) versus the intellect of other civilizaitons.  Probably a long way above the termite folks of pinewood 7 but a long way below the brain swarm.  

There would be billions of civilizations.  

Gaahhhh... I will have to dig up the source, but current theory holds that there are likely only about 900 other planets in our galaxy that meet the conditions to be capable of sustaining life as we understand it, the majority of which would not likely be any more evolved than bacteria. Earth is somewhat unique. However, extra-planetary observation is in its infancy.


If our current understanding of physics is even somewhat correct, the likelihood of any alien species traveling here from within our galaxy is so remote as to be considered highly improbable, and extra-galactic travel actually impossible. The distance, time and energy requirements are just too vast.


As for Chariots of The God's, Faces on Mars, etc... entertaining thought experiments. Compelling when you think about it. It would certainly explain a lot if true, but the physical evidence against them is overwhelming.

daryl1968

foxwolfen

space_cowboy


The stats are straightforward
Earth is 4.5 Billion years old
The universe is nearly 13 Billion.
==>There is the potential for civilizations to be billions of years older than us.

There are about 100 billion galaxies.  That is 100*10^9
They have about 100 billion stars each. 
==>That implies 10,000 * 10^18 or 1x10^22 stars

Recent observations indicate that it looks like there are way way more stars with planets than ever previously thought.

So if you do the (galaxies*stars/galaxy*planets/star*some probability factor that life emerges) equation, you still get huge numbers.  

If we are relatively young versus the rest of the universe, then you have to figure we are about average (no way well above) versus the intellect of other civilizaitons.  Probably a long way above the termite folks of pinewood 7 but a long way below the brain swarm.  

There would be billions of civilizations.  

Gaahhhh... I will have to dig up the source, but current theory holds that there are likely only about 900 other planets in our galaxy that meet the conditions to be capable of sustaining life as we understand it, the majority of which would not likely be any more evolved than bacteria. Earth is somewhat unique. However, extra-planetary observation is in its infancy.


If our current understanding of physics is even somewhat correct, the likelihood of any alien species traveling here from within our galaxy is so remote as to be considered highly improbable, and extra-galactic travel actually impossible. The distance, time and energy requirements are just too vast.


As for Chariots of The God's, Faces on Mars, etc... entertaining thought experiments. Compelling when you think about it. It would certainly explain a lot if true, but the physical evidence against them is overwhelming.

 
Where is it then?

foxwolfen

daryl1968

foxwolfen

space_cowboy


The stats are straightforward
Earth is 4.5 Billion years old
The universe is nearly 13 Billion.
==>There is the potential for civilizations to be billions of years older than us.

There are about 100 billion galaxies.  That is 100*10^9
They have about 100 billion stars each. 
==>That implies 10,000 * 10^18 or 1x10^22 stars

Recent observations indicate that it looks like there are way way more stars with planets than ever previously thought.

So if you do the (galaxies*stars/galaxy*planets/star*some probability factor that life emerges) equation, you still get huge numbers.  

If we are relatively young versus the rest of the universe, then you have to figure we are about average (no way well above) versus the intellect of other civilizaitons.  Probably a long way above the termite folks of pinewood 7 but a long way below the brain swarm.  

There would be billions of civilizations.  

Gaahhhh... I will have to dig up the source, but current theory holds that there are likely only about 900 other planets in our galaxy that meet the conditions to be capable of sustaining life as we understand it, the majority of which would not likely be any more evolved than bacteria. Earth is somewhat unique. However, extra-planetary observation is in its infancy.


If our current understanding of physics is even somewhat correct, the likelihood of any alien species traveling here from within our galaxy is so remote as to be considered highly improbable, and extra-galactic travel actually impossible. The distance, time and energy requirements are just too vast.


As for Chariots of The God's, Faces on Mars, etc... entertaining thought experiments. Compelling when you think about it. It would certainly explain a lot if true, but the physical evidence against them is overwhelming.

 
Where is it then?

Enjoy: http://www.badastronomy.com/index.html

daryl1968

foxwolfen

daryl1968

foxwolfen

space_cowboy


The stats are straightforward
Earth is 4.5 Billion years old
The universe is nearly 13 Billion.
==>There is the potential for civilizations to be billions of years older than us.

There are about 100 billion galaxies.  That is 100*10^9
They have about 100 billion stars each. 
==>That implies 10,000 * 10^18 or 1x10^22 stars

Recent observations indicate that it looks like there are way way more stars with planets than ever previously thought.

So if you do the (galaxies*stars/galaxy*planets/star*some probability factor that life emerges) equation, you still get huge numbers.  

If we are relatively young versus the rest of the universe, then you have to figure we are about average (no way well above) versus the intellect of other civilizaitons.  Probably a long way above the termite folks of pinewood 7 but a long way below the brain swarm.  

There would be billions of civilizations.  

Gaahhhh... I will have to dig up the source, but current theory holds that there are likely only about 900 other planets in our galaxy that meet the conditions to be capable of sustaining life as we understand it, the majority of which would not likely be any more evolved than bacteria. Earth is somewhat unique. However, extra-planetary observation is in its infancy.


If our current understanding of physics is even somewhat correct, the likelihood of any alien species traveling here from within our galaxy is so remote as to be considered highly improbable, and extra-galactic travel actually impossible. The distance, time and energy requirements are just too vast.


As for Chariots of The God's, Faces on Mars, etc... entertaining thought experiments. Compelling when you think about it. It would certainly explain a lot if true, but the physical evidence against them is overwhelming.

 
Where is it then?

Enjoy: http://www.badastronomy.com/index.html

Oh, I'm sorry, if badastronomy.com says it - it MUST be right :) All that physical evidence overwhelmed me :)