UPDATED MIX / VOCALS We Might Not Make It... New vocal tune.

Your site lets someone play multiple songs at once. I expected this one to be in the list on the left, but it wasn't. Just some ideas on how to improve it. (the site) I clicked on the list on the left, and then realized that wasn't the song? And clicked on the song, and both were playing at once.

I wouldn't call this a vocal tune, I would call it "classic you." I've heard many, they're all good? And this is classic you. I like the way the lead plays off of the vocal. 

That dotted 16th (or 32nd) on the hats didn't work for me, but it's a producers choice, I may use it more sparingly? Like a ****e 

(this stupid website "cake" won't let me say spise (substitute the S for a C) because it thinks I'm making a racial slur... So f'ing stupid, they should really fix that) 
 
, some can make a memory, too much can make a bad memory :-)  

Good song Daryl. And good performance, recording and engineering.


Nice, I tried to tell the pinheads that their site was broken by reporting the thread, always room for improvement I guess? in this case, "lots of room..."

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Have you ever hear the ****e girls? I love their stuff. ****e girls? It doesn't really sound like your stuff, but the ****e girls are great. I love Posh ****e? She's nice? Married to David Beckem. Those ****e girls, gotta love um. I'm thinking of covering a ****e Girls tune?

And after all? Variety is the ****e of life?

My favorite ****es are pepper and garlic. 

I wish I could tell you how to ****e this up? But it's already pretty ****y.

Very cool Daryl (great name by the way) - guitar playing is the biz.
My only nit is (for my taste) I would like the drums to come up a tad but great song

Thanks for input guys!

I wondered about the hi hat, but it's hard for me to hear it, I liked the groove I heard but I wondered about how it came out to normal ears.  I will tweak that.

Good point on the harmony Frank... I just love doing it and find it hard to resist, but no doubt sound advice.  My daughter often consuls me on the same thing.

All good points, and again I appreciate the feed back.  In addition to the folks on this site being my musical heroes, you're also my ears (as mine have abandoned me.)  Thanks much!

Daryl

I listened to this yesterday but didn't have time to reply.  This is so you, with your distinctive style and guitar playing.  I wish I were that consistent.  Don't slow down.

Took some advice here, at least what I understood.  Also cut back on harmonies per Frank,

Cleaned up the high hats I hope..

John, Lynn  Thank you!

Cactus - Thanks for the insightful crit.  As most will attest here, drums are my weak point, I don't play and I've never studied them, although I worked with a number of good drummers, I just never really understood the methodology.  I recently installed Superior Drummer and I'm really in the learning stages.   The bass suffers from the lack of a good preamp, which I will be adding sometime this spring.  Right now my bass amp is my guitar amp through my homebuilt(but increadibly effective iso box, at least very effective for guitar)  I'm looking for a quality mic pre that will also work as a DI for my bass and I have a pretty good budget.  I appreciate the comments on the song and lyrics... songwriting is probably my best forte, but I love the guitar.

Nice song! I love the sound of your vox. It could be blended better but they're outstanding.

I agree about the hi-hat. IMO, there are times where it should do that click, click, click, open, click rather than the 16th thing.

Excellent!

Drums are a tricky one for us guitar playing song writers. I think what happens to a lot of fledgling composer/ producer/engineers is they do try and wear to many hats. The drums was probably something you might not have even paid much attention to while playing or listening to music.  Most people only listen to the "song".

 I have picked apart the pieces since I don't know when.  I will listen to a whole album and focus on the drums or the bass part. I'm just weird I guess. 

As a sound engineer when mixing a live band, you need to listen and mix to hear each instrument clearly. 
You need to know what they should sound like. So I have tried to learn to play every instrument just to gain the knowledge to do this properly. I will never call myself a drummer or a keyboard player, but I could survive a night playing those instruments at a basic level in the right situation. 
As a single performer I needed drums in my accompany tracks.  I had to learn the drum parts for all the songs I was playing.  This is really the ticket. You'll soon get the idea of how even a simple drum part can work. 
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Those auto fills are a dead givaway that the drums are not real. No drummer would play a rolls like that. 
 Just put on a tune that is in the style your working on and listen to the drums.  
That's why I just bought a set of digital drums so I can (hopefully)  improve the realism of my drum parts. I find it tricky to play fills on a keyboard controller or worse yet manually enter them.  I haven't the patients to dig through libraries of 1,000 of pre done loops. I have always played my drums with live input from keyboard or mixed in real drum parts of my kit. Or better yet had a real drummer play.   
Anyways,  keep it up your doing great! 

Daryl, I think this is my favorite tune of yours. I love the progressions, the lyrics, the style. I am not usually into country/western/folk style music, but this is so good I can hear it as alt rock, or latin dance, or just about anything with only minor changes to the beat... it just has so many good elements that are not "stuck" in only one genre. I admire that.

Very good song Daryl , 


your music  has grown in leaps and bounds since I first heard you here on this forum


it must be that secret ingredient called HARD WORK ...


you Sir,  are a very strong power of example of what is possible musically 


Kenny

Nice job again, Daryl.  :)  I wouldn't mind hearing the piano a little more. :) 

Well get your mitts on a set of digital drums, They are a great way to get a good workout too! There's lot's of ways to edit the heck out of the mess you make. 
The set I bought has a built in trainer it's pretty cool. You can load in any MIDI files to play along with and mute ch10. 
Country rock is my #1 music. It covers so many sub styles. 
If you ever want to collaborate PM me. 

Kenny .  Thank you.  I practice a lot, and I will be practicing a lot more - 9 weeks to retired bliss.
I've learned so much about mixing right here, and I hope I'm still learning.  I've got some studio upgrades coming in the next few months that should help my sound.  Unlike you, I need all the help I can get, where you sound fantastic on a old beat-up guitar and tiny amp!

Shawn - Much abliged.

Janet - YOU especially, I don't want to hear MY piano.   Thanks, I should get you to play my piano! Thanks for the mix tip.

Allan, thanks man.  You are one of the few guys here that writes more songs than I do!

Tim - Thank you.  I very much appreciate the nod on the lyrics, I take them seriously.   I too think it is my strongest point, but that's because I'm weak in everything else.  I do like to think the guitar is a strong point, although I'm not a flashy player (not my thing which is good because I'm not flashy) but I like to think I bring something melodic and hopefully compelling to the table guitar-wise.  Thanks for the listen.

Daryl

Jesus! What a beautiful intro, with gorgeous vocals. Loved the tones of the guitar (what you using?) 

Really enjoyed this Daryl, thanks for sharing.
Mark.

Hi, Daryl,
 
Excellent country rock song with nice songwriting, and arrangement, great vocals and harmonies and a fresh, clean sounding mix!
 
Really good stuff, buddy, and congratulations on your CD release.  That's fantastic news, I hope it does well for you!
Bob