fireberd
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UR44 Latency
I have a UR44 as my backup unit (for my Octa-Capture which has a bad headphone jack).
Setting it up in Sonar with a buffer size of 128 samples, I'm showing almost double the latency I get with the Octa-Capture.
Here is what Sonar reports:
Input 6.7 msec 295 samples
Output 7.7 msec 338 samples
Total Round rip 14.4 msec 633 samples.
Is this about what it is capable of (reliably)?
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/23 16:42:17
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I run mine at 64 samples without trouble, but my projects are pretty lightweight. Total round trip is 9.1 ms.
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fireberd
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/23 17:49:14
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Thanks. I'll try a lower setting and see if it works OK (but I did get the Octa-Capture fixed - the other thread) so the UR44 is back to being the backup unit.
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JonD
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/23 18:56:18
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Many (perhaps most) interface drivers have a hidden safety buffer, so the reported latencies may not be accurate from one interface to another. I don't know if there's an accurate, consistent way of measuring round-trip latency... maybe CEntrance's latency utility?
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/23 20:02:15
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I get Input 6.4 msec and Output 7.4 msec @ 128.
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/24 09:55:59
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Rimshot
I get Input 6.4 msec and Output 7.4 msec @ 128.
Almost the same as firebird. I'm guessing one of you is at 48khz (and the other at 44khz).
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/24 10:28:39
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/24 13:47:32
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/25 09:55:38
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/25 10:45:04
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As long as the driver reports the proper latency (including the safety-buffer), Sonar should report it correctly.
The UR44 has higher RTL than the Roland "Capture" series (which go down to a 48-sample ASIO buffer size).
I believe the Capture series yield 7.4ms round-trip latency at a 48-sample ASIO buffer size 44.1k
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fireberd
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Re: UR44 Latency
2016/04/25 12:21:40
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Ultimately it makes no difference for me. I have the UR44 for sale ($210). I bought it as a backup for my Octa-Capture as I rarely use all 8 inputs at one time. Murphy's Law, the first time I needed a backup (Friday) I was using 7 inputs. I was doing a recording session and the headphone jack went flakey and only the Left channel worked. (The Octa-Capture headphone jack has been replaced - another thread). I'm looking at 8 channel units (leaning towards MOTU) to be my main recording interface and the Octa-Capture will be relegated to backup (the Octa-Capture has been repaired twice so its not reliable as a prime unit). Update, I ordered a MOTU 896mk3 Hybrid. Won't ship until Monday as B&H is closed for Passover (best price I could find).
post edited by fireberd - 2016/04/26 18:45:31
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