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2017/10/24 00:32:04 (permalink)

UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update

Just installed windows 10 creator update. tried to use a yamaha MD-BT01 bluetooth adapter. adapter pairs (or seems to) but is not seen by SONAR. Any idea what happened?
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 11:12:22 (permalink)
Are you referring to the fall creators update or the earlier Windows creators update from this year?
Did you have this working in SONAR earlier?
Also please check that you have the MIDI driver mode set to UWP in SONAR.

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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 11:16:58 (permalink)
Yes, the fall creators update. version 1709.
 
Yes, my md-bt01 worked flawlessly in the previous version of windows.
 
And yes, the mode is set to UWP.
 
I think Microsoft broke something with 1709 and UWP..
 
Maybe you can get them to respond.
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 12:16:01 (permalink)
Are you using a custom driver from Yamaha or the built in support from Microsoft? If you have a custom driver uninstall it and see if it changes anything.
 
Please submit a report through Windows feedback and post a link to the case. That way it can be tracked.

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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 13:19:39 (permalink)
no custom driver,  just the builtin support from microsoft...
 
will do. you mean windows feedback in here or on a microsoft forum? if microsoft, do you have a link...
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 16:20:34 (permalink)
Sorry for the inconvenience, PK.
 
We're working to narrow down what's up here. This isn't the first report of this, but at the same time, the problem does not appear to be universal.
 
If you have time and interest in doing so, it would help us out a ton if you could grab logs:
 
Edit: Links I post here get stripped. I'll send the link to Noel to post.
 
Thanks.
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 16:34:20 (permalink)
thanks pete. I look forward to this getting resolved. how do i get the logs so that when I get the links, I can send them to you?
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 16:41:45 (permalink)
Phil
 
The link is to a blog post that has all the instructions.
 
If you email me at pmbrown @ microsoft dot com I'll send you the full instructions.
 
Noel, if you can post the link here for others to see, that would also be helpful.
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 16:42:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Psychlist1972 2017/10/24 16:43:59
Here is the link about Reporting Problems With Feedback Hub that Pete is referring to. I highly recommend using it to report any windows related problems since they get escalated to the right people this way.
 
Pete I think the forum strips links until some minimum post count to prevent spam :) Thanks for helping out here!
 

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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 16:54:40 (permalink)
Psychlist1972
We're working to narrow down what's up here. This isn't the first report of this, but at the same time, the problem does not appear to be universal.


Hi, Pete. Thanks for engaging with us here. What is the scope of the problem(s) being reported? Are virtual MIDI cables being affected?
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 17:25:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby telecharge 2017/10/24 17:38:10
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We're working to narrow down what's up here. This isn't the first report of this, but at the same time, the problem does not appear to be universal.


Hi, Pete. Thanks for engaging with us here. What is the scope of the problem(s) being reported? Are virtual MIDI cables being affected?




Error reports so far have been specific to the Yamaha Bluetooth MIDI dongle and UWP MIDI. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the only BLE device impacted, but that's what we're seeing right now.
 
Classic MIDI and UWP MIDI over USB etc. seem unaffected. Whatever issue is here is likely in our BLE stack, not the MIDI stack. TBD.
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 19:59:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Psychlist1972 2017/10/24 23:08:39
logs and screen captures sent via feedback hub... please note there is a youtube video documenting this behaviour done by BEATNVISION .... uses a different midi BT dongle..
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 23:08:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] 2017/10/26 04:09:23
Thanks for the help, Phil.
 
Team is looking into it.
Bug 14365739
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/24 23:10:02 (permalink)
thanks Pete. lets hope for an easy fix!
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/30 23:40:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby linclip 2017/10/31 02:43:52
Hey, Pete will a fix show up anytime soon?
 
Sure would be great to get rid of some midi cables!
 
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/31 00:47:27 (permalink)
Whoops, I had 2 forum windows open and this ( what I just deleted)  got put here by mistake,, I was wondering what happened in the place it belongs  so please ignor this ,, move along ,, nothing happening..thanks..
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/10/31 01:34:31 (permalink)
Not sure I know what this has to do with the subject. Please advise?
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Re: UWP MIDI issues with windows creator update 2017/11/15 07:12:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby linclip 2017/11/18 12:43:12
Hi Pete.  just uploaded and updated windows this evening... Looks like some work was done on the bluetooth midi bug. i can pair the MD-bt01 now and it enumerates. i tried windsynthberry and cakewalk platinum. both can see the midi device under UWP but windsyntberry does not report any data being received and cakewalk hangs when I try to apply the choice of the MD-BT01 in the midi device list.
 
Any idea what has to happen to get the apps working? did the API change at all? Do the authors of the s/w using UWP have to make any changes to get things working.. BTW I'm  using the ASUS BT dongle to add BT to my desktop...
 
Looks like we might be halfway there..
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Phil
 
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