Uh oh... I've got too many takes on a track and now can't expand the one I want. SOLVED

I want to make an precise edit but can't get the clip tall enough to make a proper slice. A quick solution would be good. I double clicked but it opens the loop constructor thingy which I'm assuming I do not want for this type of thing. Cheers.

Are you working in Track Layers? Is that why the clips you want to edit are too small to work with?

If so, maybe try Rebuild Layers and/or Remove Empty Layers to see if that tidies it up a bit.

@Steve... Yes I am and I want to hang onto a bunch of these takes. It's displaying all of them stacked on top of each other at once. When I uncheck the Show Layers option it gives me a usable size but I'm not sure how to bring the one I want to the surface (I could do that easily in Nuendo but obviously X1 is very different) and I'm not sure how snip it without snipping the others. I'm gonna delete a bunch of takes to get a little more wiggle room but I see this being a major problem in the future. Fortunately it sounds like X2 will solve this but obviously that doesn't help me tonight. I hope you've been well, Steve and thank you. Cheers.

@timidi... Well I'm still working out the solo. I want to take the first part I've done and then keep building on that on the same track. If I cloned something like that everytime my track count would be ridiculous. I'll figure something out to keep working tonight but it is something I'm gonna need to find a proper workflow for. As I said I'm used to Nuendo (a VERY old version) where you could pull up what ever take you wanted to the surface by right clicking and selecting. It even auto muted the ones underneath and any edits you did only applied to the top take... well it would apply to the top take and if you performed the function again it would apply it to the one underneath it. Whatever, it was weird but it worked. Kind of hoping to find something like that. In fact if I could just be able to pull that take to the top and snip it where I want without affecting the other takes I could work around that. Cheers.

You can open the track layers, select the one you want, nudge it down to a new track and work on that. 

If your track is at the very bottom, a new audio track will be created automatically for you.

Or else you can do the Clone with everything selected in the popup, deleted the layers / takes you don't want and work on the one you want.

Just to elaborate on how I did this before in Nuendo and it would be a cool feature for Sonar to have is you literally just right clicked on the clip and it gave you a numbered list of the takes. You selected the one you wanted and it would come to the surface for playback and editing while muting all the other clips. It was super handy. I do like Sonar's way of showing all the takes separately but if it had a way to do what I described while the layers were hidden it would be perfect.

@Steve... Thankyouthankyouthankyou... I KNEW it had to be something easy like that. If I could send pints through the internet I would. Cheers.

Cheers indeed. That would have been a real problem. As a guitar player I'm sure you understand how important this can be for leads... which is exactly what I'm doing. Thanks again.

SteveStrummerUK


With track layers visible, select the clip you want to edit and then turn layers off. The clip will appear on top.

Thanks also, Steve, I didn't know that.  There have been several times in the past I have needed this.
 
Now I try it on an old project it seems so obvious.  You're a star.
 
Thanks again.  I learn more about this program every day.
 
Jonathan.

Best is to use control-shift drag to create copies in the new track, instead of moving.

And then bounce to clips.

Or, route all tracks to same bus, and use the bus as the source to bounce to tracks.

Yeah... I kept trying to expand just the one take various ways but no dice. It probably was just an oversight while the were programming but it's kind of a big deal for those of us doing lots of takes (like guitar players working out leads). I also find it wacky the way when you have the layers hidden when you slice something it unmutes tracks below it. It was a real pain in the butt. I wasted a good couple hours trying to figure out a work around and if you hadn't of shown up, Steve I never would have been able to do what I needed. The idea of cloning or copying to a new track is obviously workable but as I said if I did that every time I'd have WAY too many tracks and that's a pretty big time waster and would mean having to make sure all the levels are consistent. This works for now but I can see why they are making a big deal out of the take lanes. That'll be a pretty major improvement over this weirdness.