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2011/11/06 17:11:10 (permalink)

Universal Audio LA610 MKii

Can anyone talk about their experience with the Universal Audio LA610 MKii ?  I'm thinking of purchasing this during the studio upgrade promotion where you get a UAD 2 DUO for free when you buy the LA610 MKii.  Better off saving for a 6176?
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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/06 19:32:32 (permalink)
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    Can anyone talk about their experience with the Universal Audio LA610 MKii ?  I'm thinking of purchasing this during the studio upgrade promotion where you get a UAD 2 DUO for free when you buy the LA610 MKii.  Better off saving for a 6176?


    I like mine very much and will buy a second very soon for stereo tracks, very versatile and sounds great.  Before you buy one check out ADK computers for a price quote, then I guarantee you will buy one.  Seriously give ADK a phone call and talk to Scott, then enjoy your LA610 MKii and your UAD2 Duo.

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/07 08:51:54 (permalink)
    Tone,
    I have the 6176 and an LA-610 (not the mkii). I will probably jump have jumped on the promo.
    Both are excellent channel strips, and just enough different to warrant both, or in my case having all 3.

     

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/07 15:15:44 (permalink)
    I also have the LA-610 (not the mkii). I find it to be excellent for my bass guitar and vocals. You may well love the UAD plugs (if you don't already have one). I'm thinking you can not go wrong with mkii.
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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/07 21:49:41 (permalink)
    Thanks Guy's.  Bought it and it's on it's way.  The price difference between the mkii and the 6176 raised my curiosity.  All things considered I figure the price difference could be a matter of the units having different compressors, and the 6176 appears to be a little more flexible.    I'm sure I will like this thing a lot.  Up til now I've been using just my audio interface mic pre's. 
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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/07 21:57:23 (permalink)
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    Tone,
    I have the 6176 and an LA-610 (not the mkii). I will probably jump have jumped on the promo.
    Both are excellent channel strips, and just enough different to warrant both, or in my case having all 3.




    Sweet!  I hear good things about the UAD Plugins.  I'm definitely looking forward to the strip and plugins.  Peace.
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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/07 23:04:10 (permalink)
    Up til now I've been using just my audio interface mic pre's.


    Prepare to be blown away !!!!  And if you have a ribbon mic or a plain 'ole dynamic mic (SM7, SM57, or 58)........play with the transformer loading to change the sound............WOW !!!

    LixiSoft
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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/08 20:08:13 (permalink)
    This latest UA promo had peaked my interest in finally getting a bonafide professional channel strip. I've been mulling over this for the last few days and after I found a sweet deal (34% off list price with free shipping and no sales tax), I just had to pull the trigger and make myself an early Christmas present.   I already have a UAD QUAD and SOLO in my DAW rig and have all the DSP I need for my projects, so I'll be selling my new boxed UAD-2 DUO to offset the cost. I figure I should get at least $600 for it which means I will have got my new Universal Audio LA-610 MKII for about $743 net! Wow, thanks UA for helping me get a world class channel strip that I can truly afford and be proud of.

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/08 20:32:15 (permalink)
    Sweet! I hear good things about the UAD Plugins. I'm definitely looking forward to the strip and plugins. Peace.



    Once you get your UAD-2 card you will be in plug-in nirvana. The hardest part will be choosing which plug-ins to purchase. Fortunately there are 14-day unrestricted demo's for each individual plug-in so you can have a chance to check each one out as you have time. Recently, UA adopted a new policy, whereby each time you purchase a plug-in (any plug-in) all of the expired demo's get reset again. Like a crack dealer, a brilliant move on UA's part to keep feeding our plug-in addiction.

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/08 20:48:57 (permalink)
    UA has done it again. No sooner did I post the above message, I get an email from UA offering me a $25 plug-in coupon for filling out a simple survey. The coupon does not expire until December 31st and can be redeemed for any plug-in. So I will be able to apply it toward a plug-in during their annual holiday plug-in blowout sale (up to 15%-40% off every plug-in) which will be kicking off soon for even more savings. They are the crack dealers of the plug-in business I tell ya.......always offering another fix!


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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/12 18:41:41 (permalink)

    bapu
    I also have the LA-610 (not the mkii). I find it to be excellent for my bass guitar and vocals.

    LixiSoft
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    I am completely blown off the planet by what this thing does for bass!!!  My REDDI is probably going to go up for sale.


    For direct guitars it's ok, I'm not blown away by that application though, and I haven't miced a guitar cabinet yet so I still can't wait to hear that.  Thanks guy's for your feedback.  Thats a sweet deal you got Billy!  The LA610 Mkii is really nice!!! Peace...

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    Don't believe the marketing hype.

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/12 19:23:22 (permalink)
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    bapu
    I also have the LA-610 (not the mkii). I find it to be excellent for my bass guitar and vocals.

    LixiSoft
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    I am completely blown off the planet by what this thing does for bass!!!  

    See?
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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/14 15:25:14 (permalink)
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    bapu
    I also have the LA-610 (not the mkii). I find it to be excellent for my bass guitar and vocals.

    LixiSoft
    Prepare to be blown away !!!!


    I am completely blown off the planet by what this thing does for bass!!!  

    See?

    ONLY because of UADs proprietary circuits that are tuned to resonate at A440minor 

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/16 07:30:49 (permalink)
    According to Fedex tracking I should be getting my new american made, hand crafted, five tube, channel strip today! Come to daddy my bold blackface beauty! The perfect front end for my DAW. Woohoo!  
      
      
      
     
    post edited by Billy Buck - 2011/11/16 07:56:48

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/16 08:57:11 (permalink)

    That's a fancy power supply!


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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/16 09:41:51 (permalink)
    Mine showed up yesterday!

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/16 09:55:28 (permalink)
    You're gonna love it. :-)

    Here's one of mine:




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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/16 10:07:49 (permalink)
    Actually Mike I already love it!
    I have the original, wanted the UAD card.
    I'll put the old one in a friend's rack, and that way I'll have it when I track in his studio.

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/16 15:55:01 (permalink)

    Perfect!


    best,
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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/25 12:45:58 (permalink)
    How does the 610 stack up against a Neve style preamp? I'm thinking about getting one of these

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/25 14:19:27 (permalink)
    Can't speak to the Neve comparison, but the LA-610 will not "split" like the 6176.
    By that I mean with the 6176 you can use the 610 pre or the 1176 comp alone or together, hope that makes sense.
    Oh, and direct bass works great. Direct guitar not so much, but I do prefer to "move some air" so to speak when tracking guitars.

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/25 19:56:19 (permalink)
    The newer MKII version can be split, it's just the original LA610 that cannot. But you probably knew that.

    I would be jealous of all you guys getting an LA610 MKII but today I picked up a very pristine used LA2A for $1800. Just couldn't pass that deal up. Now I have to go find a solo 610. I would like to have that color of preamp in the arsenal.
     
    The 610 in the MKII has a midrange bump that the normal 610 does not have, so you might find a stand alone 610 a bit darker. Regarding the 610 comparison to a Neve preamp the answer can vary. If you have a Neve clone, they don't always come with the EQ found on the original Neve preamps. So your results can be varied but basically something like a Great River, or Portico will be tighter sounding, a bit more defined upper mids and high end. The 610 will be more rounded, warm and full sounding. So if you want something where you need a full low end like bass or to fill up a thin vocal, you would reach for the 610, especially with a line DI, Transformer based condenser or dynamic mic. If you had a tube based condenser, which starts with a fuller richer low end, then the Neve might bring a better balance. No bad and good here, just different depending on the need.
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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/26 01:29:19 (permalink)
    A thread over at Gearslutz that I found useful.  Especially interesting was the sound sample comparison of various preamps including the La 610 Mkii  It gets really interesting when WunderBro Flo joins the discussion and posts samples of various high end pre's and challenges critics of the La610 Mkii to single it out among it's high end counterparts.  A good read for anyone who may be considering the La610 Mkii

    http://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/353009-universal-audio-610-mic-pre-over-looked.html
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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/26 09:13:50 (permalink)
    "The newer MKII version can be split, it's just the original LA610 that cannot. But you probably knew that."

    How is the MkII different from the original LA-610 with regards to this? I recall reading something about a better bypass for the compressor section if you just want to use the box as a preamp.

    Is there some way to split the two functions so that they may be used independently in the same fashion as UA's 6176 Channel Strip?


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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/26 09:44:32 (permalink)
    Well I'll be, it pays to read the manual.
    "The LA-610 Mk II differs dramatically from the original LA-610 when the unit is in Bypass mode (BYP). With the original, even when the LA-610 is set to BYPASS mode, incoming signal continues to pass through the compressor section. For that reason, the compressor Gain control remains active. The LA-610 Mk II has true bypass, which completely removes the T4 Optical Compressor section, including its makeup gain control and GR/OUTPUT metering."
    So, in answer to Mike's question, NO.
    What you CAN do is use the 610 pre independent of the LA-2A compressor.
    What you CANNOT due is use the compressor independent of the 610.
    As Mike said the 6176 can be "split" and both the pre and comp used independently of each other.

    But hey, thanks for the heads up!
    Haven't got the new rack done so the Mk II is still in the box...

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/26 12:53:47 (permalink)
    Better explaination there and thanks Tom. Frankly, I would find that a bit frustrating as you couldn't substitute another preamp in front of the LA2A section. They should put a by pass on the preamp.

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/26 13:23:15 (permalink)
    I'm pretty sure in the original there is a "shared" gain stage. In the manual for the Mk II they mention a tube change to a 12AT7 (this would be a dual triode, can't remember what that is replacing, but might [must?] be a single triode), so maybe that eliminates the "shared" stage.
    There must still be an issue with gain staging or perhaps impedance, hard to say.
    Must be a good reason, it would be nice to have the same options as the 6176.

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/26 15:18:10 (permalink)
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    They should put a by pass on the preamp.

    Sounds like you need the 6176 or any dedicated pre  and a separate dedicated compressor.  Wouldn't we all like to have the option of buying the 6176 for the same price of the La610 Mkii !?  Just saying.


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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/11/26 16:56:14 (permalink)
    That's the way I went. I have seperate preamps and a stand alone 1176 & LA2A. Would like to have a 610 preamp still though.

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    Re:Universal Audio LA610 MKii 2011/12/15 14:48:03 (permalink)
    We are running a special on this promo with an added discount for our website members. It is free to join! www.littlefishaudio.com Josh
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