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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/08 04:26:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/07/08 11:26:20
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/08 04:43:58 (permalink)
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/08 08:36:06 (permalink)
Please add support for Instruments with multiple Midi channels and multiple audio outputs. This has been requested for more than a decade. It causes so many problems having to split audio and midi for multi-out instruments.
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/08 11:27:34 (permalink)
Great hot-fix / update 
Everything is working as expected again.
All the best.

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/08 15:19:17 (permalink)
Thanks for taking care of the bugs so quickly.  

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/08 18:23:20 (permalink)
Unfortunately this update wiped out my Midi, the activity monitor shows Midi input but it's not being passed through...Kontakt, Synthmaster, none of them are receiving input....using omni, specific channels etc. My Midi device is enabled in settings but it's like Midi has been turned off for me in this release.
 
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/08 20:31:50 (permalink)
Virtual Controller introduces a bug as CAPS is not working anymore.
 
Thanks for unblocking R to be able to record but why are keys not used in virtual keyboard blocked at all? :(
Still blocked I, B etc...
 
It is not big deal but kind of workflow imperfection.

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/08 21:15:38 (permalink)
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Unfortunately this update wiped out my Midi, the activity monitor shows Midi input but it's not being passed through...Kontakt, Synthmaster, none of them are receiving input....using omni, specific channels etc. My Midi device is enabled in settings but it's like Midi has been turned off for me in this release.
 
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MIDI's working fine here, so if no one else is having the problem, it's likely not a problem with the update per se but an interaction with the update. Check your various MIDI preferences to make sure nothing was reset (like MIDI playback buffers). 

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/08 22:11:04 (permalink)
Thanks Craig...I was all over the settings and nothing had change but azslow3 suggested I delete the TTSSEQ.ini file and it worked out! I just had to re-enable the Midi device under devices :)
 
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/09 20:25:40 (permalink)
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Please add support for Instruments with multiple Midi channels and multiple audio outputs. This has been requested for more than a decade. It causes so many problems having to split audio and midi for multi-out instruments.
I not sure what you mean. I use Kontakt a lot and often have several MIDI inputs and audio outputs.

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/09 23:28:55 (permalink)
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Please add support for Instruments with multiple Midi channels and multiple audio outputs. This has been requested for more than a decade. It causes so many problems having to split audio and midi for multi-out instruments.
I not sure what you mean. I use Kontakt a lot and often have several MIDI inputs and audio outputs.



Also, SONAR can have multiple MIDI channels in a single track to which various instrument inputs can point. I'm also not sure what the problem is.

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/09 23:30:00 (permalink)
Oh...and great job with the update. Thanks for making it happen so fast.

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/10 15:12:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby siordanescu 2017/07/10 21:48:50
Piotr
Virtual Controller introduces a bug as CAPS is not working anymore.
 
Thanks for unblocking R to be able to record but why are keys not used in virtual keyboard blocked at all? :(
Still blocked I, B etc...
 
It is not big deal but kind of workflow imperfection.


These now have their own separate shortcuts. Shift+0 for the Computer Keyboard and Shift+Alt+0 for the Piano Keyboard. Using Caps Lock to switch would become problematic if you were also naming tracks or work with other apps open because the keys may be unintentionally be typing all caps. That is why we made the switch to dedicated view shortcuts and deprecated the Caps Lock behavior.
 
As for I and B we discussed unblocking these as well but found that in some situations we would accidentally press these views when performing on the keyboard. We'll consider this again for a future update. Thanks for the comments.
 

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/10 20:08:48 (permalink)
Let it be known my comping issues with 2017.06 were resolved with the update. 
 
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/12 15:50:01 (permalink)
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All right, didn’t read this post through and wondered what’s the problem...

My way of working includes saving multiple versions of projects in case something breaks or I just want to go back to an earlier version: something like SongName_version1.cwp, SongName_version2.cwp and so on. More than occasionally, I have an existing folder with files from some other software where I want to save these multiple versions. Now 2017.06 wants to save the SongName_version1.cwp file to a subfolder named SongName/SongName_version1 and doesn’t let me change the folder name or use the upper level folder. Of course, I can cut/paste the files to the upper level folder or rename this new folder, but it’s a slightly annoying extra step to do.
 
So my question is: Is there a way to turn this Improved Project Handling feature off?

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/12 16:54:57 (permalink)
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Never wonder again where your files went when you’re in the heat of creativity. As soon as you decide to save a new project, SONAR will create a folder automatically with the appropriate name, and place the project audio and Mix Scenes in it—there’s no need to create a folder beforehand. And, if you later “Save As” or “Save As Copy” in the same location as the current project, SONAR will know this is the original location and not create additional folders—but if you save to a different location, SONAR will intelligently place the project and associated files in a new folder. Now you can spend more time making music—and less time thinking about where to store it.



All right, didn’t read this post through and wondered what’s the problem...

My way of working includes saving multiple versions of projects in case something breaks or I just want to go back to an earlier version: something like SongName_version1.cwp, SongName_version2.cwp and so on. More than occasionally, I have an existing folder with files from some other software where I want to save these multiple versions. Now 2017.06 wants to save the SongName_version1.cwp file to a subfolder named SongName/SongName_version1 and doesn’t let me change the folder name or use the upper level folder. Of course, I can cut/paste the files to the upper level folder or rename this new folder, but it’s a slightly annoying extra step to do.
 
So my question is: Is there a way to turn this Improved Project Handling feature off?




I haven't upgraded to 2017.06 since there weren't any features I needed and people including Craig A. were having problems updating.
I use a similar naming convention i.e. SongName_ProjectStartDate_RevisionLetter_Mix# and put it into organized folders with the name of the song. I hope I can still do this. I certainly don't want Sonar to start saving my projects in my C drive that is SSD and used only for the operating system.
 
Have you tried "SAVE AS" and put the project files in a folder you have created for it?
 
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/12 17:06:29 (permalink)
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I haven't upgraded to 2017.06 since there weren't any features I needed and people including Craig A. were having problems updating.



Just to follow up...it seemed like it was a temporary issue, I updated on two other computers with no problems. 
 
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/12 18:04:48 (permalink)
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Have you tried "SAVE AS" and put the project files in a folder you have created for it?
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Yes, it’s ”save as” that wants to create the new folder with a predetermined name (if you’re not happy with the folder the previous version of the project file resided).



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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/12 19:20:48 (permalink)
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Have you tried "SAVE AS" and put the project files in a folder you have created for it?
Walt

Yes, it’s ”save as” that wants to create the new folder with a predetermined name (if you’re not happy with the folder the previous version of the project file resided).




I'm a little confus-id (as my good Italian friends would say). If I'm working on a project and want to "save as" with a new revision letter, and I am "happy with the folder the previous version of the project file resided", will it store it there or force you to put it in a folder that Sonar selected?
 
What if I started a new project and set up a folder where I want it, does Sonar say you can't save it there, you have to put here with this name? That wouldn't make sense.
 
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/13 00:04:06 (permalink)
Save As .. might be defective in 2017.6. I tried to save a copy under another name in the same directory as the primary project, and SONAR put it into a sub-directory with the name of the new project name I'd entered.
 
Edit:
Darn, I can't reproduce it. It might have been my fault. I'll pay close attention next time.
 
 
post edited by stickman393 - 2017/07/13 00:26:06
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/13 00:12:24 (permalink)
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Never wonder again where your files went when you’re in the heat of creativity. As soon as you decide to save a new project, SONAR will create a folder automatically with the appropriate name, and place the project audio and Mix Scenes in it—there’s no need to create a folder beforehand. And, if you later “Save As” or “Save As Copy” in the same location as the current project, SONAR will know this is the original location and not create additional folders—but if you save to a different location, SONAR will intelligently place the project and associated files in a new folder. Now you can spend more time making music—and less time thinking about where to store it.



All right, didn’t read this post through and wondered what’s the problem...

My way of working includes saving multiple versions of projects in case something breaks or I just want to go back to an earlier version: something like SongName_version1.cwp, SongName_version2.cwp and so on. More than occasionally, I have an existing folder with files from some other software where I want to save these multiple versions. Now 2017.06 wants to save the SongName_version1.cwp file to a subfolder named SongName/SongName_version1 and doesn’t let me change the folder name or use the upper level folder. Of course, I can cut/paste the files to the upper level folder or rename this new folder, but it’s a slightly annoying extra step to do.
 
So my question is: Is there a way to turn this Improved Project Handling feature off?



I just updated to Update 1   23.6.0.24. I didn't understand why it stated "Update 1" since this is supposed to be Update 2 according to the thread title, but it did show .24 so I assumed this is build 24 and the only update available in Command Center.
 
At any rate, I opened one of my existing projects and tried a "save as" and it worked just is has been. I also started a new project and used "save as" and it let me create a folder with an arbitrary name, and let me save the file as normally done.
 
So it's working fine for me.
 
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/13 00:37:16 (permalink)
Hello, does this new upgrade include the 32 bit version of the software? I have a few projects that I made in 32bit Sonar! There's a problem when I load them into the 64 bit version. Obviously these two versions are different!
 
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/13 02:21:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby EddieLotter 2017/07/17 17:14:29
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Never wonder again where your files went when you’re in the heat of creativity. As soon as you decide to save a new project, SONAR will create a folder automatically with the appropriate name, and place the project audio and Mix Scenes in it—there’s no need to create a folder beforehand. And, if you later “Save As” or “Save As Copy” in the same location as the current project, SONAR will know this is the original location and not create additional folders—but if you save to a different location, SONAR will intelligently place the project and associated files in a new folder. Now you can spend more time making music—and less time thinking about where to store it.



All right, didn’t read this post through and wondered what’s the problem...

My way of working includes saving multiple versions of projects in case something breaks or I just want to go back to an earlier version: something like SongName_version1.cwp, SongName_version2.cwp and so on. More than occasionally, I have an existing folder with files from some other software where I want to save these multiple versions. Now 2017.06 wants to save the SongName_version1.cwp file to a subfolder named SongName/SongName_version1 and doesn’t let me change the folder name or use the upper level folder. Of course, I can cut/paste the files to the upper level folder or rename this new folder, but it’s a slightly annoying extra step to do.
 
So my question is: Is there a way to turn this Improved Project Handling feature off?



I just updated to Update 1   23.6.0.24. I didn't understand why it stated "Update 1" since this is supposed to be Update 2 according to the thread title, but it did show .24 so I assumed this is build 24 and the only update available in Command Center.
 
At any rate, I opened one of my existing projects and tried a "save as" and it worked just is has been. I also started a new project and used "save as" and it let me create a folder with an arbitrary name, and let me save the file as normally done.
 
So it's working fine for me.
 
Walt
 




FWIW, if you're using Save As for revisions, try the Save Copy tool in the Control Bar - it performs the same Save As function but without automatically switching the active project to that Save As version.  So you can keep updating the primary project while creating those revisions along the way.
 

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/13 19:12:14 (permalink)
Lifetime member...... haven't loaded updates since June 2016 version.  Quite a few new things to learn since then.
 
Thanks for cranking out the new stuff.
 
 

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/13 19:14:39 (permalink)
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Lifetime member...... haven't loaded updates since June 2016 version.  Quite a few new things to learn since then.
 
Thanks for cranking out the new stuff.
 
 


You've got quite a bit of features to look forward to 
Enjoy the journey 

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/13 19:32:06 (permalink)
 
WallyG
I just updated to Update 1   23.6.0.24. I didn't understand why it stated "Update 1" since this is supposed to be Update 2 according to the thread title, but it did show .24 so I assumed this is build 24 and the only update available in Command Center.
 
At any rate, I opened one of my existing projects and tried a "save as" and it worked just is has been. I also started a new project and used "save as" and it let me create a folder with an arbitrary name, and let me save the file as normally done.
 
So it's working fine for me.
 
Walt

 
Same glitch here : Update SONAR Platinum 64 bits (French version).
From CCC, and Application, it shows : 2017.06 Update 1 (Build 24)
 
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/14 20:29:17 (permalink)
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Save As .. might be defective in 2017.6. I tried to save a copy under another name in the same directory as the primary project, and SONAR put it into a sub-directory with the name of the new project name I'd entered.
 
Edit:
Darn, I can't reproduce it. It might have been my fault. I'll pay close attention next time.



With this new update there are a couple changes to the saving of projects, If you do a new Save As and navigate to a new location (Not Current Project Location) We will automatically put the Project into a folder so that new audio added to the project goes into the project folder. This can still be customized to what ever you like in the bottom section of the dialog.
 
If you are doing a new Save As into the existing project folder we recognize this to be the Same folder and only save an additional project without creating a sub folder.
 
Also, When using the Ctrl+N shortcut to create a project the first save will prompt to give it a name and will also self organize the project into a folder at the location you choose. This makes moving a project to a different location much more reliable that everything gets moved. Any newly imported audio or recorded will then get stored in the correct place along with Mix Recall saves and Melodyne Transfer files.

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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/15 05:28:38 (permalink)
just a quick observation. When in touchscreen mode if the control bar is collapsed, you cannot access any of the modules unless you use a mouse. When you do use a mouse, the modules drop down but not if you use touch. Is this not an issue? Or am I missing something?
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/15 18:31:22 (permalink)
Lance Riley [Cakewalk]
 
With this new update there are a couple changes to the saving of projects, If you do a new Save As and navigate to a new location (Not Current Project Location) We will automatically put the Project into a folder so that new audio added to the project goes into the project folder. This can still be customized to what ever you like in the bottom section of the dialog.



Lance, that describes the situation I encountered, except that even after customizing the location, Sonar went ahead and created an extra subfolder under that. Seeing as I can't reproduce this, I'm going to chalk it up to user error and pay close attention next time.
Thanks for explaining the change in more detail.
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Re: [Updated] SONAR 2017.06 Update 2 (Build 24) Now Available! 2017/07/18 22:17:37 (permalink)
why command center is not showing update2 bill 24
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