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Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
I have Sonar Platinum and am wondering if there is a way to update new releases all at once or at least being able to pick and choose what gets updated from check list. This Foxboro is a big release in that there are currently 23 items needing update. It is a major waste of my time updating everything one at a time and having wait and watch the command center reload after every item update. I assume I can go to the web and download 23 items but what good is the command center if this is the workaround? I am hopeful there is another way. Thanks, John
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 15:27:46
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Simply select which parts in command centre that you want to update and leave the rest to another time. There's no requirement to update at all.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 15:28:04
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I second that:).... How about an update all button?? thanks..
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 16:09:00
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This does seem like an unusually big update, due to the need to prep everything for compatibility with the new CCC coming in July. If it wasn't for that, the update would take maybe 10 minutes with broadband. One of the main variables is the size of loop libraries. The EDM Percussion Loop Library is around 100 MB. I have to be careful not to do any 1 GB libraries
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 16:09:44
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So I am guess this is one time because of new Command Center... anyone reading this don't bother going through the thread scook posted unless you have some time, I think what he wanted me to see was this from Cakewalk. A few of them have been updated to support the forthcoming Command Center update. As you may know, Command Center 1.0 loses track of what's installed if you log out, clear your cache, etc. Everything has been updated to improve that experience when the Command Center update launches. So, in many cases, the content installed hasn't changed. But you'll have to install them to get your lights showing green again. The important ones to install, with actual new stuff are: SONAR Core Drum Replacer Platinum Instrument Collection Anderton Collection Local Help
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 16:14:18
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Anderton This does seem like an unusually big update, due to the need to prep everything for compatibility with the new CCC coming in July. If it wasn't for that, the update would take maybe 10 minutes with broadband. One of the main variables is the size of loop libraries. The EDM Percussion Loop Library is around 100 MB. I have to be careful not to do any 1 GB libraries
Thanks you for the response Craig. Its too bad the Command Center has to reload every time you download something, it would give me back a minute or so. I like getting it all done and forgetting about it...but if this gets fixed in July "GREAT" :)
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 17:04:02
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Glad to see I am not alone on this one. I thought Command Centre was the 1 stop shop for updates - I bought 2 Pro Channel strips this month - they did not appear in Command Centre - had to go to Cakewalk.com to download. In the recent survey I did comment on the "slowness" of Command centre - and the inability to perform a update all - today I have the tedious task(monthly) of spending a few hours updating - although I look forward to the updates the application of them is tedious. I am hoping that the good folks at CW are looking at more efficiencies in their download tool.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 17:14:18
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Karyn Simply select which parts in command centre that you want to update and leave the rest to another time. There's no requirement to update at all.
Yer - but the whole point is to keep the product up to date - how on earth are you supposed to work out what is and is not needed - the whole point of a orange warning light is to say Update. Also - I find it annoying collapsing the "sonar platinum" and showing green when there are lots of updates still required. PS - scribbling this at 05:12 in the morning before work doing my updates - which I cannot possibly finish before getting ready.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 17:30:00
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Anderton This does seem like an unusually big update, due to the need to prep everything for compatibility with the new CCC coming in July. If it wasn't for that, the update would take maybe 10 minutes with broadband. One of the main variables is the size of loop libraries. The EDM Percussion Loop Library is around 100 MB. I have to be careful not to do any 1 GB libraries
OK I think I understand... But this is taking way too long. Also Command Center is not notifying me when complete as it says it will when I minimize. It does not pop up like I would expect. This will take a few sessions but I am done for now 12 items completed in 2.5 hrs.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 17:57:24
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Took me a couple of hours too, and that is with a high speed (80 MB/sec) cable internet link. Early in the new CCC era I saw an "Update all" for Sonar, but apparently it was removed. It would have come in handy today with all the manual operations.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 18:02:34
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Meno Thanks you for the response Craig. Its too bad the Command Center has to reload every time you download something, it would give me back a minute or so. I like getting it all done and forgetting about it...but if this gets fixed in July "GREAT" :)
I don't know if it will or not. I usually attend to other things during updates, like answering questions about updates  , having a snack, coiling cables...I guess I lump CCC updates in with other maintenance.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 19:01:21
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It's not just the re-search, it's the idea that I need to click to continue, wait for the search, click to update, wait for the download, rinse, repeat.....
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 21:25:54
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charlyg It's not just the re-search, it's the idea that I need to click to continue, wait for the search, click to update, wait for the download, rinse, repeat.....
Yes, you'd think CCC could assume that nothing new became available between when it did its first scan and subsequent updates.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 21:29:18
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charlyg It's not just the re-search, it's the idea that I need to click to continue, wait for the search, click to update, wait for the download, rinse, repeat.....
Agreed...I am surprised that this is how this was designed. Regardless of Cakewalk intentions I hope that this gets re-designed/corrected on any future large releases to either Sonar or Command Center. Chalk one plus for the old way.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 22:23:30
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☼ Best Answerby Meno 2015/07/01 16:03:06
I think Cakewalk originally assumed the CCC would be more of a "click the button and download everything" situation. But when they added all these different elements to download, people wanted them broken down to a more granular level so that could choose what to download, and download some things but not others to save time. It was probably my fault for doing sample and loop libraries  . So my theory is that the scanning process that was supposed to do a pass on a couple of things and then go away after the download ended up doing more downloads, so more passes.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 22:28:59
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With all due respect to Cakewalk, CCC is very much a version 1.0 product, with all the flaws and oddities that implies. Personally, I'm happy to cut a bit of slack at least until 1.1, and I'm happy about how imminent that seems to be.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 22:41:49
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wow, Foxboro took me 6-7 min..tops. Was finished before I realized. Just clicked the yellow Sonar and CCC did everything at once . Less than 7 min I'm sure
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/06/30 23:48:42
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I go to my account and download all the files suggested by CCC. That way I can have 12 different downloads happening at a time. By the time the last one has downloaded I'm already uodating them using CCC.
Once the files are downloaded I copy the, to the Command Centre Download folder. CCC sees them there when you select an item to install. Still not super quick but heaps faster than waiting for each individual item to be downloaded then installed only for the cycle to start again.
Give it a try.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/01 03:43:18
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mudgel "I go to my account and download all the files suggested by CCC. That way I can have 12 different downloads happening at a time. By the time the last one has downloaded I'm already uodating them using CCC." Mudgel, Do you do that in command center or some other way? I can only do one at a time in CCC and I share the frustration of the original poster and everyone else. Hoping the "Update all" buttons comes back
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/01 03:51:29
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Go to your account at the Cakewalk site, https://www.cakewalk.com/My-Account , then under 'Products' you can download them manually from there. Then you just place them in the folder that CCC expects them to be in, the default is C:\Program Data\Cakewalk\Command Center\Downloads, then you just select install through CCC and it will use those files instead of downloading them again through CCC
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/01 04:00:01
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joyof60 wow, Foxboro took me 6-7 min..tops. Was finished before I realized. Just clicked the yellow Sonar and CCC did everything at once . Less than 7 min I'm sure
Yes but did you click on the sonar Platinum icon to reveal everything underneath it that needs updating? I'm on 152Mb download speed and to do the lot last night took me 80 minutes, so with the greatest respect, I think you're missing something.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/01 04:55:40
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Have to say I totally agree with above. Since advent of this new system the amount of time wasted on updates has been colossal. Improvements to the command centre are long overdue - it is the most clunky and worst system I have ever had to use. The Native Instruments system is vastly better. This has all been a major retrograde step in my eyes as a user. Please sort it out as quickly as you can - I was a fan of cakewalk software but the first 6 months of these new arrangements have really put me off, and I won't be renewing unless there are major improvements.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/01 05:15:46
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jih64 Go to your account at the Cakewalk site, https://www.cakewalk.com/My-Account , then under 'Products' you can download them manually from there. Then you just place them in the folder that CCC expects them to be in, the default is C:\Program Data\Cakewalk\Command Center\Downloads, then you just select install through CCC and it will use those files instead of downloading them again through CCC
Thanks Jeff. Before I saw your post I figured part of Mudgel's solution out and I did the download straight from the website as you suggest, but did not save or install from the folder you suggested. So, even after manually installing all the updated files, CCC still tells me they need to be updated. Oh well, I'll mess with it tomorrow. Aloha, Bill
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/01 08:07:36
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I'm not sure all of the time spent maintaining our tools can or should be considered wasted time. I was doing other things on my pc during the interminable click to continue, click to d/l, etc. I like Craig's idea of doing all maintenance on my pc once a month, which will be done on the day or day after Sonar update is available.....
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/01 08:28:08
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mudgel
"I go to my account and download all the files suggested by CCC. That way I can have 12 different downloads happening at a time. By the time the last one has downloaded I'm already uodating them using CCC." BRainbow Do you do that in command center or some other way? I can only do one at a time in CCC and I share the frustration of the original poster and everyone else. Hoping the "Update all" buttons comes back
I go to my Cakewalk account to do the downloading. That way I'm not constrained by one download install cycle per item. I keep CCC open so I can see which files need to be downloaded. Once they are all downloaded I place them into the Command Centre Download folder, then when you initiate an installation the file is already there. At this stage there is no way to avoid the cycle the CCC takes to check for updates after every installation but by the time I've downloaded the biggest file I've usually finished the whole installation. On this occasion I downloaded and installed every file. That way when the CCC comes out this month I'll be ready to go.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/01 10:12:36
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I would certainly vote for the one click let it happen while I'm sleeping button. I'm in the sticks so my connection speed is less than ideal.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/01 13:16:40
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Meno I have Sonar Platinum and am wondering if there is a way to update new releases all at once or at least being able to pick and choose what gets updated from check list. This Foxboro is a big release in that there are currently 23 items needing update. It is a major waste of my time updating everything one at a time and having wait and watch the command center reload after every item update. I assume I can go to the web and download 23 items but what good is the command center if this is the workaround? I am hopeful there is another way. Thanks, John
Try it on four machines. I have my Command Center folders shared. Then Live and Reason had updates at the same time.
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Re: Updating New Releases (very time consuming)
2015/07/08 00:49:22
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Is there a reason that there's no "update all" button? It's great that you can only update the ones you want to update if you choose to do so, but frankly I have never yet wished to leave one not updated. This is extremely tedious, and the real problem is that I have been having a helluva time motivating myself for songwriting lately, anyway. This is like sitting here hitting myself in the head with a hammer. This is my 2nd go-round, and I'm still not making not progress.
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