Updating from Foxboro to Lex: Do I need to download the "Core Plugins"?

Happy New Year all.
 
Seems Sonar still aren't being quite as helpful/descriptive enough with some of these downloads. I would really like full lists with dates of when individual items were released or last updated.
 
So as it stands... I of course have all the Platinum plugins up to and including Foxboro. It would be redundant to download that entire pile again (or even just the "core plugins" whatever that means). AFAIK the only new plugs are the Style Dials. Are those in the "Core Plugin" download? If not what package are they in?
 
Did I miss any updates to other plugins that might be in the "Core Plugin" download?
 
How about the Craig Anderton stuff or any other packages? (I already downloaded Rap Session and the Zeta update so no worries there).
 
I just don't want to be downloading these HUGE files unnecessarily because they eat up drive space and are a pain to sort through.
 
And no... I have no interest in using the CCC. This is why I would like fully itemized and dated lists for everything so I can review what is new and what I need instead of the bulk packages (but the bulk packages are packaged and itemized well... I just want to easily see more detail of what's IN them).
 
Anyway... ranting aside what should I be looking at while I have myself logged in and snagging stuff.
 
Looking forward to trying out Lexington.
 
Thanks.

Without using CCC, the only way to know for sure is to work your way down the list.  Any items that have "Show Older Downloads" have been updated along the way.  The only way to know if the current is later than yours is to compare the file names from the last time you downloaded.
 
If you have NEVER used CCC to install anything, you MIGHT be able to check your current versions in Control Panel>Programs>Programs and Features. 
 
You really should learn to trust CCC.  I was an initial CCC holdout as well, but I'm a believer now

I understand.  I agree that dates & coincident Sonar release info being shown with the downloads would be very handy.
 
TODAY though, you'll have to trudge thru it.

BobF
I did do a quick look and Eng FX, DR, Boutique, Anderton and Local docs have all been updated along the way.  You'll have to compare the latest versions against what you already have

Thanks, dood. Sorry for being a prat. Update day just gets me a little snippety due to the lack of detailed/dated info. They can take the time to write up those nice promotional blurbs for each entry but not some organizational details for us stubborn offliners.
 
And yeah... I'll have to keep checking the version release numbers. I've been working on a system for that (involves notepad docs and organizing the installers into subfolders etc) but it's still pretty hectic at this point. lol
 
Cheers.

Alright... I did a whole pile of scrounging and cross-referencing with my other update/download sessions. I've got everything except the Boutique suite dl'd and ready to install.
 
What was added/updated to the Boutique FX Suite this year? Actually this is the one installer that is actually SMALLER than previous installers (AFAICT).
 
What did they dun did? Remove something? Was anything actually added or updated?
 
I'm downloading it anyway but I cannot think of anything they added to this suite over the year... BUT I did not install the Boutique Suite at ALL since SPlat came out because it looked as though nothing new was added since X3.
 
To explain... to me that installer from Allston/Braintree did not have anything new that I did not already have with X3/X2/X1 so I did not bother (from what I recall).
 
Now there are two entries for download and I'm curious what is in it (and the original one now I guess in case I missed something originally)... and as stated the newest one is SMALLER than the original one.
 
If anything this is refining my update cataloging process (which is all going into a notepad document with dates, version numbers, details and installation status) but I would still like Cake to provide this more granular info.
 
 
And Bob... thanks. Your suggestion/probing got me viewing the download area in a more useful way.
 
Cheers.

BobF
No prob.  FWIW, CCC doesn't run on it's own.  It's purely On Demand so you don't have to worry about it sneaking around looking for pRon when you're not expecting it.
 
I do understand.  I held out for a really long time.

I just think it's an extra thing to manage/go wrong and I much prefer to do these things on my own. I like to organize and store my installers in my own way, pick and choose what goes where, etc and don't want to learn/manage a special program to install another program.
 
I'm also rather displeased with Cakewalk's push into this "App-y/cloudy/always online" world. I know they have kept it tame because they know us Sonarites are a curmudgeony lot but there does seem to be a lot of forceful nudging in that direction. I'm assuming this is at the insistence of the hyper modern new Gibson and their efforts to be cutting edge.
 
The Baker's though, from my experience, are hyper modern in that regard as well but are also practical old school programmers who understand the desire for hands on management of systems by those who don't want/need to be spoonfed.
 
It is partially because I simply do not like these types of systems but it is also very much a protest against them becoming the only option if one is to use the program. It is the type of thing that has made me avoid other programs in the past.
 
It's creeping up slowly into the NI/Adobe style distro/registration model and I think that will sorely damage the brand.
 
Aaaaaaaand we've gone back into ranto mode.
 
Sorry... it is important to me though.
 
Cheers.

Bristol_Jonesey
Beep, the only time, and I mean ONLY time my machine is connected to the internet is when downloading updates for Sonar, and sometimes IK Multimedia/FXpansion

For sure and hopefully it will stay that way (but we gotta be pricks about it because the younger folks don't seem to care about such things as much).
 
All I need is
 
a) To be able to continue being able to download installer packages manually
 
b) Dates of when an installer package has had any changes, additions, updates to it
 
c) A description of what those changes, additions, updates were so I can decide whether to download/install them now, later or never.
 
I can handle it from there. Currently it's a matter of hunting things down on my system based on point versions, keeping elaborate notes and annoying you guys for extra info on specifics. Not very efficient.
 
Of course the "solution" is to succumb to the CCC but that has it's own issues and I don't particularly trust it to do exactly what I need it to... also I don't think the CCC provides the type of detail I am looking for anyway.
 
Then there is the matter of I don't want to encourage Cakewalk to think the CCC is something that can be made mandatory. They were good enough to allow "offline" installations and that is to be commended. They need to stick to that and make it an at least SEMI efficient experience.
 
Dates and descriptions on the installers would go a long way to that. Maybe some kind of tracker system in our accounts that puts a checkmark beside something we have already downloaded (and a date of when) would be helpful too. That way it is stored on site and we can see we have downloaded something already (that has not been altered/updated in the interim.
 
The focus has been on the CCC while the store accounts remain chaotic.
 
 
Anyway... everything has been installed now. I have absolutely no clue as to what exactly some of these vague installers did but it is done and I have a restore point setup in case something stupid happens.
 
I'm sure I'm gonna dig Lexington though... but fingers crossed.
 
Cheers.