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2017/12/06 16:46:12 (permalink)

Upgrading To TH3 Full

I'm trying to decide if I need TH3 Full version. Is it worth the $119?

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/06 16:53:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2017/12/06 18:05:41
Hi,
You could try the full demo for 15 days to see if it's what you need.

 
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/06 18:12:38 (permalink)
I upgraded a while ago and it has been well worth it for me. It has quite a few additional models and I find I prefer those models to the ones bundled with the SONAR version. If you like the bundled version and use it often, I'd say the upgrade is a no-brainer. 
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/06 19:12:20 (permalink)
I think so and S-Gear is my go to amp sim. I use the bass amps and fx and I use the amps on EPs and synths. I like their fuzz/OD collection. I like the sound of an over-driven power amp, but some times I just gotta have some fuzz  

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/06 19:59:36 (permalink)
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I think so and S-Gear is my go to amp sim. I use the bass amps and fx and I use the amps on EPs and synths. I like their fuzz/OD collection. I like the sound of an over-driven power amp, but some times I just gotta have some fuzz  


Two sims that are on my "to get" list....been very happy with A4 and Bias Fx Pro, but too many are never enough.

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/06 20:13:03 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/12/06 20:20:50
Hi. The two best amp sims I've tried (by far, IMO) were S-Gear, and TH3 (in that order). And I tested a lot
(I don't have the full TH3, but would be on my next wish list, if I hadn't gotten S-Gear just recently )
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/06 22:26:06 (permalink)
I have S-gear and absolutely love it! That's why I am hesitant but my wife says at $119 it's a no-brainer and she says she's tired of me complaining I don't have a decent bass amp sim   
 
 
I downloaded the demo and will check it out tonight

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/06 22:40:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2017/12/07 00:02:56
While the full TH3 contains some stuff for bass, the Mark Studio 2 bass amp sim is the same price as the TH3 upgrade. May want to demo both and see which you prefer.
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/06 23:08:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/12/07 11:44:00
bayoubill
I have S-gear and absolutely love it! That's why I am hesitant but my wife says at $119 it's a no-brainer and she says she's tired of me complaining I don't have a decent bass amp sim   
 
 
I downloaded the demo and will check it out tonight




If my wife ever told me that I need to buy more plugs I would be all over it. As it stands the less she knows the better.
 
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/07 00:05:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/12/09 12:48:40
"If my wife ever told me that I need to buy more plugs I would be all over it. As it stands the less she knows the better". 
 
I know how much and what she has spent money on. It means she wants something else 

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/07 11:43:43 (permalink)
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I have S-gear and absolutely love it! That's why I am hesitant but my wife says at $119 it's a no-brainer and she says she's tired of me complaining I don't have a decent bass amp sim   
 
 
I downloaded the demo and will check it out tonight


Bill, have you checked out IK's Ampeg SVX2 for bass? http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/ampegsvx2/
It's $99 at the IK store (possibly cheaper with jam points or even at other vendors). 
 
Of course, it's only bass and no guitar stuff like TH3.

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/07 11:44:45 (permalink)
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bayoubill
I have S-gear and absolutely love it! That's why I am hesitant but my wife says at $119 it's a no-brainer and she says she's tired of me complaining I don't have a decent bass amp sim   
 
 
I downloaded the demo and will check it out tonight




If my wife ever told me that I need to buy more plugs I would be all over it. As it stands the less she knows the better.
 
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/07 12:28:17 (permalink)
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While the full TH3 contains some stuff for bass, the Mark Studio 2 bass amp sim is the same price as the TH3 upgrade. May want to demo both and see which you prefer.




Another +1 for the Mark 2 bass sim. Great for bass. It's all I use.

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/07 20:05:19 (permalink)
Real Mark Bass amps are stunning. I prefer those to any other bass amps when I have a choice. As for the emulation, I'm not sure you can dial that larger than life tone with it, as I haven't had a chance to make a direct comparison.

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/07 20:51:35 (permalink)
FWIW, Plugin Alliance has Brainworx bx_bassdude on sale today and tomorrow (7-8 Dec) for $19.
 
https://www.plugin-allian...ducts/bx_bassdude.html

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/09 04:46:36 (permalink)
Guyz , i m not at all a guitar amps connaissoir , so how would you guyz label th3 versus gtr or guitar rig , after a fast spin with it im pretty surprised by the fun and the great tones ... are the small extansion like funk eçt included in th3 full ?

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/09 21:08:16 (permalink)
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Guyz , i m not at all a guitar amps connaissoir , so how would you guyz label th3 versus gtr or guitar rig , after a fast spin with it im pretty surprised by the fun and the great tones ... are the small extansion like funk eçt included in th3 full ?

I've been playing for a long time and have a nice collection of real amps and effects pedals and TH3 is my favorite of all the various plug-in options I've tried. I find it to be the best balance in terms of sound quality, user interface, low CPU usage/latency, quantity and quality of bundled amps/fx, etc.. It's the quickest for me to get the amp tone and effects chain I want and then its CPU usage is light enough that I can keep the audio interface latency acceptably low without worrying about glitching when tracking.
 
I do slightly prefer Bias's amp modelling and find it a bit more "life like" to my ears. If you have a Focusrite interface, be sure to head over the Plugin Collective to pick up a light edition of Bias Amp + FX for a free. I recently purchased Helix Native but haven't had an opportunity to use it enough to have a strong opinion about it other than it seems to be much more of a CPU hog. I've tried pretty much all of the other big names at some point and never liked them much.
 
The great thing about recording dry guitar into a plugin is that you can easily reamp it either virtually by switching to a different plugin or out to a real amp. I can track everything with TH3 for the convenience factor and then swap it out for Bias or a real amp if I decide I want a different tone while mixing. 
 
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/09 21:25:45 (permalink)
Thks Dave , yep i have the plugin collective via focusrite , gonna chek it also , but as you said , the wrokflow + cpu usage alone conviced me , for the tone , i can't say if' s sounding like the real things but it sounds great to my hears ....what about samplitube ?

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/09 22:31:14 (permalink)
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I do slightly prefer Bias's amp modelling and find it a bit more "life like" to my ears. If you have a Focusrite interface, be sure to head over the Plugin Collective to pick up a light edition of Bias Amp + FX for a free. I recently purchased Helix Native but haven't had an opportunity to use it enough to have a strong opinion about it other than it seems to be much more of a CPU hog. I've tried pretty much all of the other big names at some point and never liked them much.



Thanks for the reminder and the testimonial.
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/10 20:12:52 (permalink)
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....what about samplitube ?

Guessing you mean Amplitube? Don't know if they've changed this but last time I used it, it had the incredibly annoying behavior of showing all possible effects and presets whether you own them or not with no graphical indication of this and no way of filtering down to the ones you have. Most of my eval time was spent clicking on presets and dismissing the nag screen that pops up telling you that you don't own the gear in it. I believe they include everything with the Max edition so that wouldn't be a problem if you buy that but otherwise it's aggravating. In general, I wasn't overly excited enough about whatever was available with mine to ever go back to it but it does seem to be packed with some really cool features. 
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/10 20:24:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby telecharge 2017/12/10 20:37:52
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Guyz , i m not at all a guitar amps connaissoir , so how would you guyz label th3 versus gtr or guitar rig , after a fast spin with it im pretty surprised by the fun and the great tones ... are the small extansion like funk eçt included in th3 full ?

TH3 has been covered (I have it, and generally use it first). NI's Guitar Rig is pretty good. Don't like Wave's GTR at all. Not even sure if I still have it installed. Totally forgot about it.
 
For s**ts and grins, here's the base Guitar Rig preset for Hank Marvin's Apache sound:
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/orvu8exz392gnrh/Hank%20Marvin%20Apache.ngrr?dl=0
 
Here's the video that describes the patch and how to adjust the various components to suit your playing style.
 

 
One other terrific-sounding amp sim is Kuassa's Vermilion (currently on sale for about $25). Really good!
 
https://www.kuassa.com/products/amplifikation-vermilion/
 
There's a demo available.

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/10 20:55:10 (permalink)
I'm guessing few here have it, but how does MAGIX's Vandal 'stack up' against the amp sims already mentioned?
 
It's been around a while. I found a text file for it in a Samplitude folder with a 2007 date. A lot of MAGIX's stuff is recycled and getting long in the tooth. The professional reviews from 2010 are favorable, at least.
 
I've never heard much about it, so that's probably my first clue.
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/11 12:42:55 (permalink)
Markbass Studio 2 is $66.36 at JRR with GROUP code

 
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/11 21:38:13 (permalink)
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Markbass Studio 2 is $66.36 at JRR with GROUP code




Is it really some that we don't have in th3 ?

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/12 00:50:23 (permalink)
If it's bass tones you are really after, then the Mark Studio is far more capable. It only has a handful pedals, but many more amps and cabs for just bass. I'm still a novice bass player, but I see comments from bass payers abut the 'ampeg sound', so TH3 is good for that. Mark Studio is modeled on Markbass amps and they seem very much in vogue. Watching tuition videos, about half the players play Markbass, and the mere professional they are, the more likely.

 
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/12 01:31:20 (permalink)
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Markbass Studio 2 is $66.36 at JRR with GROUP code


Did the price just drop?
I could have sworn I checked this a day or so ago and it was around $40 higher...

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/12 01:34:56 (permalink)
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Is it really some that we don't have in th3 ?



AFAICT there are no Mark Bass components in TH3. It's a whole separate product, and highly recommended.
 
The only bass amp sims I might prefer over Mark Studio 2 are the newer Ampegs from UAD. The Mark sound is different from the typical Ampeg sound, but it's very consistent and usable. Try it yourself and see.
 
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/12 01:49:25 (permalink)
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Markbass Studio 2 is $66.36 at JRR with GROUP code


Did the price just drop?
I could have sworn I checked this a day or so ago and it was around $40 higher...


It recently went on sale again.
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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/12 02:01:45 (permalink)
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Zo
Is it really some that we don't have in th3 ?



AFAICT there are no Mark Bass components in TH3. It's a whole separate product, and highly recommended.
 
The only bass amp sims I might prefer over Mark Studio 2 are the newer Ampegs from UAD. The Mark sound is different from the typical Ampeg sound, but it's very consistent and usable. Try it yourself and see.
 
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Thks Ediie , what do you think about the softube bass amp ?

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Re: Upgrading To TH3 Full 2017/12/12 02:31:56 (permalink)
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Thks Ediie , what do you think about the softube bass amp ?



Eh, it's pretty good but has been outclassed by newer products, IMHO.
 
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