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2017/11/25 01:17:22 (permalink)

Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates

It seems the only way to stop updates, is by upgrading to Windows Pro for $99.
 
Are there any other real benefits for the Audio Set up with Pro?
 
Are there cheaper places to purchase the upgrade product key?
 
 

 
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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/25 04:30:04 (permalink)
I have Windows 10 Pro (upgrade from Windows 7 Pro) and I can recommend it highly!
 
The major plus is the Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc), that lets you set administrative overrides on various features.
So regarding updates, you can completely disable automatic updates.  Local Computer Policy > Administrative Templates > All Settings > Configure Automatic Updates.
 
If the status for this policy is set to Disabled, any updates that are available on Windows Update must be downloaded and installed manually. To do this, search for Windows Update using Start.

 
With automatic updates disabled, you can now choose "check for updates" from the "Settings > Windows Update" panel.  Until you do the manual check, nothing will update automativcally.

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/25 09:52:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/11/26 14:32:54
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It seems the only way to stop updates, is by upgrading to Windows Pro for $99.
 
Are there any other real benefits for the Audio Set up with Pro?
 
Are there cheaper places to purchase the upgrade product key?
 
 




if you stay offline (for most of the time) you could simply disable the win update service. i did that on one older machine where i did not feel like buying into win10 pro (for 4 other PCs i did and i'm happy with, though).
 
basically if it is an all purpose computer i'd go with win10 pro. if it's a DAW with no other use, you can stick to what you have, disable updates, and every half year or year allow it to update (in case you acquire some really hot new software) but take a disk image before
 
 

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/25 11:13:45 (permalink)
Regardless of what anyone tells you, you don't have to upgrade to Pro version to stop updates, they will tell you this and that and the other, the fact is you can permanently disable updates with the Home version very easily, and if you choose you can re enable updates whenever you wish. I have a couple of Windows 10 Home PC's and Laptops, and a couple of Windows 10 Pro Pc's and Laptops, they all have updates disabled and have had for a long time, and they all remain on the same Windows 10 version and build number. All are permanently connected to the net.

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/25 11:36:44 (permalink)
I have 10 Pro on my desktop DAW and 10 Home on a Laptop and updates enabled on both.  To date I have not had any problems with any update/upgrade.  I have had to reauthorize some add-ons after an "upgrade" but I don't consider that a big deal.
 
 
 

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/25 17:46:11 (permalink)
If you plan to keep using Sonar for years, it would probably be wise to lock down your Windows 10 on a dedicated PC.  Take it offline, or whatever...
 
Since there will never be any more "fixes" from the Cakewalk devs to ensure compatibility with changes Microsoft may introduce in the future, it would be a crap shoot to keep updating your OS, but not your DAW.
 
Alternatively, if you have an imaging workflow, that will be allow you to keep archiving a version of Windows known to be compatible with the last version of Sonar (2017.10).  So you could stay online safely that way, which may be necessary on a multi-use PC.  Then if an update to Win 10 someday breaks Sonar, you could roll back to an earlier image, and then think about going completely offline.

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/25 18:39:23 (permalink)
I'm one of those that will be switching DAWs.  I purchased Studio One 3 Pro at Sweetwater black Friday 1/2 off sale.  Sonar works and does what I want, but at some point a Windows update will do it in.  I don't have the luxury of a dedicated PC that I can use.  But as it will probably be a while it gives me lots of time to learn Studio One 3.
 
I had a freebie version of Studio One 3, that I got with a Presonus purchase, but never did much with it as it was limited to two tracks.  Guess I should have been learning it anyway.  

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/25 19:10:39 (permalink)
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Regardless of what anyone tells you, you don't have to upgrade to Pro version to stop updates, they will tell you this and that and the other, the fact is you can permanently disable updates with the Home version very easily, and if you choose you can re enable updates whenever you wish. I have a couple of Windows 10 Home PC's and Laptops, and a couple of Windows 10 Pro Pc's and Laptops, they all have updates disabled and have had for a long time, and they all remain on the same Windows 10 version and build number. All are permanently connected to the net.


How do I disable updates?

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/26 02:20:46 (permalink)
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Regardless of what anyone tells you, you don't have to upgrade to Pro version to stop updates, they will tell you this and that and the other, the fact is you can permanently disable updates with the Home version very easily, and if you choose you can re enable updates whenever you wish. I have a couple of Windows 10 Home PC's and Laptops, and a couple of Windows 10 Pro Pc's and Laptops, they all have updates disabled and have had for a long time, and they all remain on the same Windows 10 version and build number. All are permanently connected to the net.


How do I disable updates?


Me too? What do you do?
 
Thanks for the replies.
 
I figure with an image of my system, then I can stay online, and should anything cause and issue, I'd just go back to that image. I use my system for more than just sonar, and will lay out for my next when this one dies.
 
Seems the only real perk to Windows Pro 10 and Home 10 for the studio user is just updates prevention.
 
 
 
 

 
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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/26 03:40:43 (permalink)
Kamikaze
 
Seems the only real perk to Windows Pro 10 and Home 10 for the studio user is just updates prevention.
 



Bottom line yes, there are ways to "hack" Windows 10 Home to prevent updates.
 
But if you are not a PC nerd, or don't care to spend the time learning how, Windows 10 Pro offers a solid solution with Group Policy Editor, for now.  They may break the ability of Pro to prevent updates in the future, requiring an enterprise license, but that is speculation.  Microsoft... SMH!!!

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/26 05:06:39 (permalink)
Any clues on how?

 
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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/26 06:16:18 (permalink)
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Regardless of what anyone tells you, you don't have to upgrade to Pro version to stop updates, they will tell you this and that and the other, the fact is you can permanently disable updates with the Home version very easily, and if you choose you can re enable updates whenever you wish. I have a couple of Windows 10 Home PC's and Laptops, and a couple of Windows 10 Pro Pc's and Laptops, they all have updates disabled and have had for a long time, and they all remain on the same Windows 10 version and build number. All are permanently connected to the net.


How do I disable updates?


I have home and have updates disabled.  Very easy.  Right click on the task bar and select Task Manager.  Select the Services tab.  Open Services.  Scroll down to Windows Update.  Right click and select Properties.  Under Start Up Type, select Disabled.  Under Status hit Stop.  Click apply and ok and close out of all the tabs.  No more updates.  When you are ready to update again,  re enable this service and you can update again. 
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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/26 06:59:06 (permalink)
Cool, thank you.

 
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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/26 14:31:36 (permalink)
This article covers all of the options...
 
A workaround to Turn Off Windows Update in Windows 10
http://www.thewindowsclub...s-update-in-windows-10

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/26 14:37:40 (permalink)
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if you stay offline (for most of the time) you could simply disable the win update service. i did that on one older machine where i did not feel like buying into win10 pro (for 4 other PCs i did and i'm happy with, though).
 
basically if it is an all purpose computer i'd go with win10 pro. if it's a DAW with no other use, you can stick to what you have, disable updates, and every half year or year allow it to update (in case you acquire some really hot new software) but take a disk image before
 



IMHO, this is probably the best advice.  Stay offline if you wish to avoid updates.  If you do need to go online, you really should do so only with a fully patched Windows! 
 
Get a cheap second PC, or a Chromebook or something, to go online with.  Dedicate your DAW PC to offline use.

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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/27 23:34:42 (permalink)
My understanding of the kill windows update service kludge is that the service will be periodically turned back on by Windows and that it will only stop "feature updates." Security updates and other "quality updates" are not loaded via the update service. That said, the custom setting for windows update in the group policy editor of Windows 10 Pro also only affects the "feature updates." I have been refreshing my information in this regard lately since a November security patch killed my printer functionality, but if anyone can point me to a reference that works on blocking all updates I would appreciate it. Disconnecting from the internet will stop Microsoft from screwing up your installation, leaving you with a zombie installation that will keep working as it was prior to pulling the plug, but it will not enable you to fix existing issues. A firewall that whitelists only the site you need may let you do things like online activation of new plugins, but there is no way to pick and choose which Windows updates you get.
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Re: Upgrading Windows 10 to Pro to stop updates 2017/11/28 02:25:28 (permalink)
You can pick and choose your updates on Windows 10 using the Microsoft 'wushowhide' utility.
 
How to Hide or Show Windows Updates in Windows 10
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8280-hide-show-windows-updates-windows-10-a.html
 
I have been able to prevent every 'feature update' until I am ready using this method (I stay about 6 months behind this way). 
 
And fyi, by disabling automatic updates in the Win 10 Pro Group Policy Editor (GPEDIT), neither the monthly security or quality updates are ever downloaded, until I click on 'check for updates'. 

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