Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface

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2015/01/14 14:10:40 (permalink)

Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface

I am looking at upgrading from my Sapphire 8i6 to an interface that will allow me to record more that two tracks at one time. So as far as an upgrade - what is a good introductory interface that can send 6 or 8 channels to my DAW? In some of the descriptions I read they talk about plenty of outputs, but they don't clearly address this question (to me anyway). Is USB/Firewire always restricted to stereo /two channel recording to a laptop no matter how many inputs the interface has??  thanks
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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/01/14 14:30:16 (permalink)

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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/01/14 15:18:25 (permalink)
    I have a Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 Firewire.
     
    has 16 in's 8 outs.  I have it on a dedicated Firewire card running at Firewire 400.
     
    I have no problem recording 4 of my hardware synths stereo (8 input channels to accommodate L/R).
     
    my CPU is 3.8ghz and I have 32gb ram and SSD drives in my desktop DAW rig.
     
    if you have a laptop with a slow hard drive, not much ram and record at a high rate you may introduce a lot of latency when recording.
     
    depends on what your computer specs are as it all has to work together.
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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/01/14 17:34:26 (permalink)
    Since you're already accustomed to Focusrite products, it would make sense to just go with one of the 8i6's multi-channel siblings. They're inexpensive and pretty decent interfaces. I currently use a Saffire Pro 40, which was half the price of the MOTU 828Mk2 it replaced but provides nearly identical functionality.


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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/01/14 20:57:02 (permalink)
    Is USB/Firewire always restricted to stereo /two channel recording to a laptop no matter how many inputs the interface has??  thanks
     
    This is only true of a few Mixers like Mackie and Behringer that are 12 or 16 channel mixers but only have a 2 Channel USB interface. 
    Go to Sweetwater, Musicians Friend or any on line music store and look up Audio interfaces, there are dozens and dozens of multi channel interfaces. 
     
    I have the old Tascam us1641 which is now called the us1800 and then the brand new model the US16x08 as example of 16 channels for only $300. Then there's the Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 which is around $350. Presonus is also popular. 

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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/01/14 21:03:04 (permalink)
    Hey hold the phone !!   A search for Sapphire 8i6 takes me to info about the Scarlett 8i6, Sapphires never had numbers like that. So if you have the Scarlett 8i6 you already own a 8 input interface...Are you just not setting it up right? 

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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/01/14 22:23:30 (permalink)
    you should adjust your setting and inputs in sonar. i use RME and UAD for recording and both have multiple inputs and outputs. I record concerts with 16 mic in to my Daw and it's working just great.
     
    so you have to adjust sonar input to have them all recording. or whatever number of mics do you have. 
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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/01/15 01:44:36 (permalink)
    As pointed out above, the saffire unit has 2 mic preamps, 2 separate line inputs and digital spdif in/outs.  If you have a mixer or outboard preamps you are good to go for two more channels.  If you get something like the Tascam uh-7000 you can use its superior preamps and conversion over the spdif digital in - and out for montitoring.  That gives you 6 inputs at once.  The uh7000 is $400.
     
    That would be a cheap way to improve inputs and quality.  Otherwise, how much are you thinking of spending?  I saw a bigger Focusrite for $500, tho I don't think you can aggregate it w/ your unit.  Lynx has a new 4 x 4 pcie unit coming out.  If it is priced like the old unit it will be $1000+, but it includes 2 digital in/outs so you could use the saffire.  Or just buy Burl. 
     
    A price range would help.

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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/02/09 19:06:47 (permalink)
    So one more question about this issue of number of channels / tracks that can be recorded - about a USB Mixer. Take for example the Mackie ProFX12 Compact Mixer with Effects and USB - I have written to them to find out, perhaps someone knows if this usb carries just the main stereo out, or can each pre-amp channel be recorded... thanks ! 
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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/02/09 21:05:28 (permalink)
     
    The Mackie is a only a stereo interface @ $299 that's what you'll get. The 8 channel to DAW version is $650.  http://www.mackie.com/products/dlseries/
    All those budget USB mixers drivers are not very good for Sonar.  They are not intended to be used as an interface. It's for stereo board mixes and playback. 
      
    You are not really engaging in this thread very well ( 3 weeks to reply to your own questions) so I'll be brief. I am more then willing to sort this mystery out for you if you could just get back in a timely manner please.
    First I think you own the interface shown below. If this is correct you already have 2 XLR inputs, 2 TRS inputs and SPDIF for a total of 6. If it is not, could you supply a link to the product page please. 
     

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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/02/09 21:27:24 (permalink)
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    So one more question about this issue of number of channels / tracks that can be recorded - about a USB Mixer. Take for example the Mackie ProFX12 Compact Mixer with Effects and USB - I have written to them to find out, perhaps someone knows if this usb carries just the main stereo out, or can each pre-amp channel be recorded... thanks ! 


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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/02/09 23:06:26 (permalink)
    I have it sorted out now ---you are sure correct about my not engaging well. Appreciate your efforts to help me out. That is the interface I own. 
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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/02/10 11:39:45 (permalink)
    ps - so one more follow up - i did with your help and persistence (mixmkr)  correctly set up 4 separate channels in my DAW off the 8i6 - not at this time messing with the other 2 SPDIFs.... Thanks ! 
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    Re: Upgrading for multiple tracks - What interface 2015/02/10 11:51:37 (permalink)
    OK, well you still only really have 4 inputs unless you have a SPDIF mixer or pre amp on hand. And you were after 6 or 8, so you might have to upgrade to the 18i8.
    Like you were originally saying the advertising can be misleading with some brands.
     
     
    Like the 18i8, unless you use the digital and Adat connections you only have 8 analog inputs. So 18 inputs is a bit misleading for most people. 
     
    And for some folks if you don't have a dedicated pre amp or a little mixer, the line inputs often found on the back,  are useless for microphones.
    Example- Your 6 input 8i6 is only good for 2 mikes without using additional equipment. 
    Buy the time you pay for the additional equipment you are often better off buying the right interface with the exact connections you need. The more wires and connections, the more noise in your signal path. 
    Many seem to make this mistake when purchasing an interface. 
     
    I have the Scarlett 6i6 which is more or less just like yours. I can use all 6 inputs together.   I have a Yamaha 01V digital mixer so I use the SPDIF inputs primarily for my collection of hardware synths and some mikes. I have dozens of things plugged into the 01v so I never have to re patch most instruments. I also use it for the headphone mix. 
    I have a TC BH 250 Bass pre amp into one line in #3 and A Joe Meek threeQ pre amp into line in #4 that is my main vocal input now. 
    I actually don't use the front panel XLR inputs unless I have more than on person in the studio. 
    So I leave those open as they are nice and fast to set up with just about anything  Mike or DI.
    I never liked them for vocals.  
     

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