Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces

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2008/05/28 16:50:28 (permalink)

Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces

In my main DAW at home, I use an Echo Audiofire4 with an Echo Mia. In the DAW I keep at the art program where I volunteer, I carry the same Audiofire4 and use it with another Echo Mia and an M-Audio Audiophile 24/96. My home DAW uses Vista 64 with Sonar 7 X64. The studio DAW uses Sonar LE and XP Home.

Here's my problem: using both computers, I can use all the interfaces simultaneously in WDM mode, but not ASIO mode. In ASIO mode, only the Audiofire4 is used...everything else is greyed out. If I use the copy of Mackie Tracktion that came with the Audiofire4, all interfaces work in ASIO mode. Does anyone know how to get more than one interface to work with Sonar in ASIO mode?
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    daveny5
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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/28 17:18:23 (permalink)
    Does anyone know how to get more than one interface to work with Sonar in ASIO mode?


    You can't. ASIO mode only allows 1 soundcard at a time. You could try the ASIO4ALL driver, but its basically a WDM driver masquerading as an ASIO driver.

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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/28 22:22:13 (permalink)
    what Dave said,

    I'm surprised another DAW allows that though, due to syncing problems etc. (cubase 4 + reason 4 doesn't support 2)

    there are exceptions to the rule, my sw1000 + dsp factory share the same asio driver, but due to issues of it being legacy the dsp factory is gonna get sold soon.

    your right though, it will gray out one of the interfaces. I noticed this when I plugged in my ozone keyboard and you can select that or the other card.

    I'd like then to have made a standard where you could just set it for say "output" so I could use my USB mic at the same time and still keep the asio driver on.
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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/28 23:22:23 (permalink)
    If WDM driver mode works, then theres no need for the asio driver mode. Both driver modes do not have to work, you just pick the best one and go with it and since you have 2 interfaces, you cant even use asio mode, so go with wdm
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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/29 02:40:47 (permalink)
    Hard to match two different devices in ASIO. However, I know that you can chain similar devices from the same company i.e. two Lynx cards can be synched and operate under ASIO.

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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/29 04:43:56 (permalink)
    That's becsuse the driver recognises the other cards. The driver usually provides the synchronisation that's necessary without having to resort to worclock. This works for most manufacturers who have products where multiple devices are/can be chained together. M-Audio with their Delta cards, RME with several of their devices like the FF800 the driver can recognise and provide synch for upto 3devices together.

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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/29 07:32:23 (permalink)
    Asio4all is what I use on my laptop and I have access to anything onboard or plugged into my computer.

    I've only recorded with two different inputs at once and didn't notice anything odd. But the outputs is where I benefit most from.
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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/29 15:59:06 (permalink)
    Interesting, just last night I tried to re-install a Firewire solo to go with my Tascam 1804. I had bought a new mic and want to have a 5th channel for it (I know I have 4 on the Tascam but I wanted to dedicate the 5th one) Anyway I played around with settings on both cards. At first the M-Audio was not recognized, but I was able to get that fixed. I was not able to get SONAR to go to 96k though, or get any sound, even at 44.1

    It appeared that I got everything recognized and could select from all the channels, but could not get the audio engine to stay on at all. I played with lots of different settings ( not ASIO ) but was unsuccessful. I know it is a driver conflict. After about an hour I gave up

    Anyone want to buy a Firewire solo

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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/30 17:52:12 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Fog

    what Dave said,

    I'm surprised another DAW allows that though, due to syncing problems etc. (cubase 4 + reason 4 doesn't support 2)



    I'm beginning to figure out it's because the software and audio devices are made by the same company...Mackie

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    If WDM driver mode works, then theres no need for the asio driver mode.


    I have no qualms about using WDM drivers on my XP machine. My Vista 64 machine however is a different story. The latency is horrible with WDM drivers. When I press play, record or stop, it takes 2 to 3 seconds to start or stop.

    Probably my best solution would be to get another Audiofire. It would seem one can use multiple devices under ASIO provided they use the same driver.
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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/30 17:58:58 (permalink)
    I have no qualms about using WDM drivers on my XP machine. My Vista 64 machine however is a different story. The latency is horrible with WDM drivers. When I press play, record or stop, it takes 2 to 3 seconds to start or stop

    have you tried ajusting the latency and playback buffer settings??? Im sure you tried that? right....
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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/30 18:08:46 (permalink)

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    have you tried ajusting the latency and playback buffer settings??? Im sure you tried that? right....


    The latency is set as low as it can go without dropouts.
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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/30 19:00:19 (permalink)
    Playback buffer?? Is it set to 128 or 256

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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/30 20:02:12 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Progmatist
    Probably my best solution would be to get another Audiofire. It would seem one can use multiple devices under ASIO provided they use the same driver.


    Steve, it depends on who has made the asio driver, they might not support multiple instances. I'd email them to make 100% sure. I'm an annoying customer in that sense, I never assume anything of companies, causes less hassles later.

    Although I guess in reality it may say it's supporting 2 cards, I wonder how many are syncing from say the word clock. I mean my old cards were linked internally , so it was just transferring the sound internally.

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    RE: Using ASIO with multiple audio interfaces 2008/05/31 14:41:21 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: CJaysMusic

    Playback buffer?? Is it set to 128 or 256


    it's set to 128

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