Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1

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2012/08/23 10:49:53 (permalink)

Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1

Im trying to use EZDrummer with studio x1. I am running in 64 bit, and I have downloaded the update for ezdrummer to run in 64bit. I am a complete noob to using sonar x1. I am clicking on synth - add synth - insert synth - vst plugins - ezdrummer. In the option screen that comes up I have ticked 'synth track folder', 'all synth audio outputs:stereo' and 'synth rack view'. This adds about 8 ezdrummer tracks. I then rightclick on ezdrummer in the browser on the right hand side to bring up the ezdrummer drumkit view, but when i click on the drums I dont get any sound. Also when i try to listen to different grooves there is no sound either. Please help. I obviously havent got the file path correct or I am not setting up the inputs/outputs correctly, can anyone please explain y I cant get ezdrummer to work?
 
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/23 11:10:16 (permalink)
    I am sure that someone that owns Ezdrummer will come along. In the mean time, make sure that you have a drum kit loaded or there will be no samples for Ezdrummer to play.
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/23 11:18:41 (permalink)
    @scook,its default is to load a kit apon insert.
     
    if the GUI is loading,meaning the windows with the drums in it.
    look at the progress bar,if the kit is not loading it means when you did the update you didnt make sure the dlll went into the correct folder.
    your going to do a few things,first make sure your plug in manager is set up to accept the c/programfiles/cakewalk/vst plugins.
    if not then plugin manager is not scanning those dll's.
    this can be done by opening up the plug in manager/options/add folder.
    but by default it should already be there. 

    go into program files(your 64 bit files)find toontrack,in this folder you should see the DLL for ez drummer.
    this ddl needs to be moved to the 64 bit vst folder.(c/program files/cakewalk/vst plugins) 
    if cakewalk is not scanning this dll then how is it supposed to load it?
     
    in short-take the dll from the toontrack folder and move it to the cakewalk programfiles/vst folder. 

    i hate to sound like a d.b. but did you not read the pdf file that came with your update?
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/23 13:08:22 (permalink)
    Surely the problem isn't in the dill file if he is able to open up the program?
    It sounds to me that perhaps EZdrummer doesn't know where you installed the audio data?
    Although having said that the installer should remember your data paths unless you moved them after installation? 

    Also, on the right hand side of EZdrummer there should be a little box that tells you how many megabytes of each kit or kit piece has been loaded.
    It should say around 260 MB. Does yours say anything? Try clicking the little arrow on say the snare and changing it from the "Rogers" to a "Rogers Damped".
    You should see some action in the box on the right that shows you that the new kit piece is loading. If you don't see this you might have a problem with your data paths.

    Another thing you might want to check is to see if the audio engine is actually switched on. It's an easy thing to overlook but has caught me out on a few accasions.
    It's a little square with a squiggle though it that should be lit up green and it's on the transport module to the right of the play button.
    If it's not lit up green then you won't hear anything.

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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/23 17:07:17 (permalink)
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    Surely the problem isn't in the dill file if he is able to open up the program?
    It sounds to me that perhaps EZdrummer doesn't know where you installed the audio data?
    Although having said that the installer should remember your data paths unless you moved them after installation? 

    Also, on the right hand side of EZdrummer there should be a little box that tells you how many megabytes of each kit or kit piece has been loaded.
    It should say around 260 MB. Does yours say anything? Try clicking the little arrow on say the snare and changing it from the "Rogers" to a "Rogers Damped".
    You should see some action in the box on the right that shows you that the new kit piece is loading. If you don't see this you might have a problem with your data paths.

    Another thing you might want to check is to see if the audio engine is actually switched on. It's an easy thing to overlook but has caught me out on a few accasions.
    It's a little square with a squiggle though it that should be lit up green and it's on the transport module to the right of the play button.
    If it's not lit up green then you won't hear anything.

    Steve

    your joking right ??
     
    when you apply the 64 bit update if you dont direct the dll to the 64 bit folder the gui will load but the kit wont play.
    because by default itgoes to the c/programfiles/toontrack folder instead.
    the kit absolutely will in deed load but no sounds can be heard because sonar is still seeing the 32 bit plug in in the programfiles(86) vst folder.
    you should really try doing a search before you confuse this kid even more then he already is.
    im actually very surprised you have no idea what i am talking about since its been talked about in many threads and is also written in the pdf as an important note.
     
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/23 19:21:26 (permalink)
    Thanks for the help everyone, this is my first time using a forum and im surprised at how quickly people have responded. So when I look at the drumkit the Mb size is sitting at zero. So I assume that means I have the file path wrong. Please remember that I am a complete noob when it comes to all this sort of stuff. Can someone plz tell me where to click and what to type in order to fix this problem?

    Im having dropout issues also but i'll keep that for another thread lol :(

    thanks
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/23 19:23:56 (permalink)
    hey, ive just posted another message, thanks for your help.
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/23 19:25:13 (permalink)
    hey there, thanks for the help, plz check out my response on the thread
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/23 20:19:12 (permalink)
    check your c/program files/cakewalk/vst plugins.
    if you dont see a DLL called ezdrummer inside that folder then
    ez drummer will not work.

    now look in c/programfiles/toontrack.
    is there a DLL named exdrummer in there?
    yes there is,now take that dll and copy it to your
    c/programfiles/cakewalk/vst plugins folder

    its easy,then your problems will be solved.
    your dropouts ???
    start another thread.
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/24 04:07:38 (permalink)
    Apologies to Dermy

    I've had EZdrummer for a long time but pretty much stopped using it when I discovered the joys of BFD2.
    I'd forgotten you can't change your data paths in EZdrummer like I can in BFD Eco & BFD2.

    As for the 64bit update I did the update but don't remember having any issues of kits not loading so was obviously blissfully unaware and therefore uninterested in any threads about it. 


    How do I go about searching for issues which I have never been affected by ? 

    I was attempting to help and not confuse him Chuck



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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/24 07:52:07 (permalink)
    hi, there is no DLL ezdrummer in c/programfiles/toontracks. The is a folder called ezdrummer, but no dll. I have tried copying the whole folder but the system wont let me. It says I need permission from the administrator, but when i hit continue i get an error.
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/24 08:02:58 (permalink)
    dont copy the whole folder lol,revert what ever you just did.
    have you looked in the c/programfiles/cakewalk/vst plugins folder for the ez drummer DLL ??
    which update did you use ? 
    you probably only did one update.
    see post below. 
    post edited by chuckebaby - 2012/08/24 10:17:38
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/24 08:27:20 (permalink)
    have you looked in your plug in manager to make sure sonar is scanning the right folder?

    go to preferences(by hitting the P on your keyboard.
    go to vst settings,in the top window "vst scan folder(s)
    you sould see this line  c/program files/cakewalk/vst plugins.
    and also this line.

    ***you may also have failed to do this
    when you ran the update,did you run the 32 bit update and the 64 bit update?
    you need to run both. 

    to make things easier,read the document that came with ez drummer update.
    heres an insert from that doc.
     
     
     
    "If your computer is running a version of Windows made for 64 bit processors and you intend to use EZdrummer in a 64 bit host, double click the EZdrummer 32 bit Updater  included in this archive and follow the on-screen instructions. Once the process has been completed, double click the EZdrummer 64 bit Updater  included herein and follow the on-screen instructions."
     
    post edited by chuckebaby - 2012/08/24 08:31:06
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/26 13:14:45 (permalink)
    i was willing to help you through this problem you were having or still are having but to ditch your thread with out any follow up post after 2 days.
    im going to have to bow out now.

    good luck.
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/27 08:31:52 (permalink)
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    i was willing to help you through this problem you were having or still are having but to ditch your thread with out any follow up post after 2 days.
    im going to have to bow out now.

    good luck.

    Don't know what country Dermot is in but here in the Uk it's a bank holiday so it might be that he's away and hasn't had time to get back to you Chuck.
    Could be any number of reasons.


    Seems a bit harsh to put a time constraint on whether or not you're going to help someone.


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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/27 13:03:20 (permalink)
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/27 13:27:04 (permalink)
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    chuckebaby


    i was willing to help you through this problem you were having or still are having but to ditch your thread with out any follow up post after 2 days.
    im going to have to bow out now.

    good luck.

    Don't know what country Dermot is in but here in the Uk it's a bank holiday so it might be that he's away and hasn't had time to get back to you Chuck.
    Could be any number of reasons.


    Seems a bit harsh to put a time constraint on whether or not you're going to help someone.


    Steve

    im only speaking for myself when say this.
    ive never started a thread asking for help and when ive seen someone put the effort into helping me,
    ive never just ditched it.
     
    maybe we have different morals but i believe if you start a thread,ask for help,you stay with it.
    even if it is a "bank holiday"..lol.
    and if some reason,you cant...you leave an easy message.
     
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/27 14:58:55 (permalink)

    im only speaking for myself when say this.
    ive never started a thread asking for help and when ive seen someone put the effort into helping me,
    ive never just ditched it.
     
    maybe we have different morals but i believe if you start a thread,ask for help,you stay with it.
    even if it is a "bank holiday"..lol.
    and if some reason,you cant...you leave an easy message.
     

    I agree in principle though I wouldn't say it's necessarily a moral issue. It's only two days and he may not have internet access or god knows what.
    I see it's his first ever post and he's not posted since so perhaps he's just learning the ropes of netiquette like we all once did.

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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/28 13:11:17 (permalink)
    this kind of thing happens ALL the time.  usually the OP has figured out how to make it work and doesn't return to say so.

    if you're helping people in a forum for any amount of time you get used to that sort of thing.

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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/28 13:16:56 (permalink)
    Beagle


    this kind of thing happens ALL the time.  usually the OP has figured out how to make it work and doesn't return to say so.

    if you're helping people in a forum for any amount of time you get used to that sort of thing.

    Quite.


    It can be frustrating when you think you've helped someone but you're not sure they understood and you never hear back from them.
    It's happened to me on many occasions and it's quite possible that I've even done it my self  

    If the OP does return to thank you then think of him as the prodigal son.

    Steve

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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/08/28 15:11:56 (permalink)
    haha!  yes, I am quite pleased when someone returns to thank those who helped.

    sometimes, however, I've also had people go for weeks without returning to a thread (even months, occassionally) and then come back for more help because something happened in their life that they couldn't work on this and it's not as big of a part of their life as it is mine! 

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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/09/24 10:51:26 (permalink)
    lol, sorry for not getting back, my laptop broke. Now ive got a new one, back to square one basically. Ive read all the comments, i'm sure the info is there to get it working by myself, thanks for the help
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    Re:Using EZDrummer with Sonar Studio X1 2012/09/24 16:27:58 (permalink)
    And now you can move to the X1 forum were all this belongs too! 

    A small request to my good friends who are always forever so helpful here. 
    Please always include a polite reminder that this is the wrong forum. 
    I know we can still help, but eventually they need to be aware that there is a proper X1 form. 
    X1 ( and 2 ) users will get a better response in the x1 forum. 
    It's bad enough admin won't change the name or even stop by to move the threads. 


    So true about more than half the threads go unfinished by the OP. As Beagle say's, it's part of helping on forums. Don't always expect any thanks or follow up. There are a lot of us who are permanent fixtures here week by week, but, I think the average poster just wants a fast solution and then they move on with their life never to return. 
    I always wait for a dialogue to start before going into long winded answers. 
     I even check there user profile and see if they have been good forum citizens via the post listing there. You can tell I'm bored.
    I get stuck with nothing to do for a few hours and the forum is good therapy. Should be recording....
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