Using Midi Effects in Piano Roll View

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2011/09/25 18:55:09 (permalink)

Using Midi Effects in Piano Roll View

I'm just getting started with X1 (Cakewalk user since late 90's).  In the past, in the piano roll view if I wanted to change the velocities of a group of midi notes I could select them and use Midi Effects Velocities to change the note velocities by a certain percentage.

Is there still a way to do that?

Thx,
Mike F.
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    Re:Using Midi Effects in Piano Roll View 2011/09/25 19:07:43 (permalink)
    Well, you _should_ be able to select the notes and choose Process > Apply Effect > MIDI Effects from the main menu, but that option is grayed out so it looks like you've found a bug.

    If you right-click the selected clip in the Track view, you can choose Process Effect > MIDI Effects and do it that way.

    However, the easiest way to manipulate multiple note selections is via the Event Inspector. Take a look at this video for more info...

    * Cakewalk SONAR: Event Inspector Editing
    http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/video.asp?ID=7

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    Re:Using Midi Effects in Piano Roll View 2011/09/25 19:35:44 (permalink)
    Scott, thx for the quick reply. 

    My issue is that I'm trying to edit some drum midi and there's a particular set of cymbals I'm trying to edit and there are obviously other drum sounds above and below that and I don't think I can select a horizontal slice in the Track View.  It seems to select everything in a vertical column unless I'm missing something?

    I guess I would have to select the notes in the Piano Roll View and use the Event Inspector?

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    Re:Using Midi Effects in Piano Roll View 2011/09/25 19:47:09 (permalink)
    Hi Mike,

    If you select the notes in the PRV, you can then right-click the clip in the Track view to manipulate only those selected notes.

    Or yes, you can also use the Event Inspector.

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    Re:Using Midi Effects in Piano Roll View 2011/09/25 21:05:16 (permalink)
    Open the PRV, hilight the notes you want to edit, open the tool menu, select the second or the 3rd choice from the left, then right click  on an empty space, you'll get a drop down menu withe all your midi edit processors. I found about it by accident.
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    I'm just getting started with X1 (Cakewalk user since late 90's).  In the past, in the piano roll view if I wanted to change the velocities of a group of midi notes I could select them and use Midi Effects Velocities to change the note velocities by a certain percentage.

    Is there still a way to do that?

    Thx,
    Mike F.



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    Re:Using Midi Effects in Piano Roll View 2011/09/25 21:59:17 (permalink)
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    I'm just getting started with X1 (Cakewalk user since late 90's).  In the past, in the piano roll view if I wanted to change the velocities of a group of midi notes I could select them and use Midi Effects Velocities to change the note velocities by a certain percentage.

    Is there still a way to do that?

    Thx,
    Mike F.


    Wouldn't you just go to the Process menu and choose Scale Velocities? Just check the Percentages box and make the Begin and End values the same.

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    Re:Using Midi Effects in Piano Roll View 2011/09/25 23:10:49 (permalink)
    Open the PRV, hilight the notes you want to edit, open the tool menu, select the second or the 3rd choice from the left, then right click  on an empty space, you'll get a drop down menu withe all your midi edit processors. I found about it by accident.



    Ha, that's very interesting. There have been several threads about the loss of this capability, and I don't think any of them mentioned this solution. Makes perfect sense, since the default tool in 8.5 was the Select tool, and right-clicking with it give the context menu whereas right-click with the Smart tool is erase.


    Scott made a bad call on the grayed out Process > Apply Effect menu, though. That's how X1 works now. You can only apply effects that have already been set up in the FX bin. 





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    Re:Using Midi Effects in Piano Roll View 2011/09/25 23:33:30 (permalink)
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     Scott made a bad call on the grayed out Process > Apply Effect menu, though. That's how X1 works now. You can only apply effects that have already been set up in the FX bin. 
    Yep, sorry about that. Personally, I think it should still work the way I mentioned earlier, but oh well. 


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