Using a speaker cab IR in Sonar?

Hi. I'm curious about this myself, and hope someone will educate me / us 
All the best.

Anderton
I believe you can load speaker impulse responses in TH3 Cakewalk.

Well, to clarify.  I am going to use a real amp -> load box -> DAW.  So, I don't plan on using an amp sim.

amiller

Anderton
I believe you can load speaker impulse responses in TH3 Cakewalk.

Well, to clarify.  I am going to use a real amp -> load box -> DAW.  So, I don't plan on using an amp sim.

You can still use TH3 for speaker cab.
I also use Recabinet, and sometimes Redwirez IR Big Box which also comes with its own utility VST.

amiller

Anderton
I believe you can load speaker impulse responses in TH3 Cakewalk.

Well, to clarify.  I am going to use a real amp -> load box -> DAW.  So, I don't plan on using an amp sim.

Then don't use the amp section...just bypass it, and use only the cabinet.

PerfectSpace, which comes with Sonar loads IRs. I use that quite a bit. You get some hi and low pass and eq options also. Good way to get your feet wet because you already have it
Just downloaded NadIR, looks preety cool and simple-simple is good. Have to try it over the weekend. I also own Reverberate from Liquidsonics. Loads IRS and comes with a ton, but its not cheap. I bought it for the Convul reverb...Great reverb.
 
Checking Nadir and Reverberate out this weekend. 

Anderton

amiller

Anderton
I believe you can load speaker impulse responses in TH3 Cakewalk.

Well, to clarify.  I am going to use a real amp -> load box -> DAW.  So, I don't plan on using an amp sim.

Then don't use the amp section...just bypass it, and use only the cabinet.

I use a real amp direct out (no emulation) and feed it to one of my sims this way.  Waves GTR, Guitar Rig and Amplitube all have the ability to bypass their amp sections and use only the cab/mic emulations.
 
I've not done much with the IR approach as I'm always able to great sounds with the above approach.
 
I have used NadIR to apply an SM57 IR when using a Red Box 5, which does not provide the mic emulation.  Works great.
 

I use a Marshall JTM45 head into a Rivera RockCrusher direct into my audio interface, then monitor through the Two Notes Wall Of Sound cab simulator plugin in Sonar. It sounds great and quite different than using Guitar Rig, Amplitube, Waves GTR or TH3... although I like experimenting with a combo of any of the above. Even a amp head from Guitar Rig run into a cab impulse from Two Notes will give you good results.

Does anyone have any info on Redwirez IR loader?  Looks pretty promising to me.

I like using different IRs too - usually one close and on the cone, and another one further back - either on centre or off to the side a little.
 
Torpedo Wall of Sound is great for this, as you can just drag th emics around for different placements (as opposed to auditioning a bunch of IRs)

this damn forum post's disappearing bug, the forums are getting as flaky as sonar
 
 

amiller
 
Does anyone have any info on Redwirez IR loader?  Looks pretty promising to me.

yes is it the one i choose mixir2, not free, unless you buy the bigbox set of ir's, which are pretty good by the way. it allows you to combine many ir's, not just cab's, eq ir's etc, which are included with it, plus if i recall correctly you get more with the bigbox set. after you combine them you can out put the result to a single ir for use.
 
http://www.redwirez.com/mixir2.jsp
 

Features at a Glance

• Efficient, no-nonsense, drag-and-drop IR browser

• Zero latency, so it adds no delay to the signal

• Run one IR or 30 with the same unmatched performance

• Efficient, optimized convolution engine with low CPU usage let's you run more plug-ins.

• Powerful internal routing allows you to mix IRs without messing with busses and sends

• Mix IRs in stereo with pan controls

• Upload, download, share and rate presets on redwirez.com

• 32-bit and 64-bit Windows VST

• 32-bit and 64-bit OSX VST and AU

• RTAS for Pro Tools 9, 10 Windows/OSX

• AAX Native 64-bit for Pro Tools 11

• No authorization, activation or licensing scheme to get in the way

• Neve 1073 EQ impulse responses included

• Buy it solo, or get it free with the purchase of the complete BIGBox library.

 
i own all of or most of the ones mentioned above, recab, nadi, two notes torpedo, and others i can't recall, mixir2 can well and truly hold it's own and more

I use MixIR too, sometimes, though I don't have an analog guitar preamp/head so mostly I end up using S-Gear which comes with an IR loader and a few RedWirez IRs included.

MixIR has way more features to combine and pan them though, the only thing I never really understood was the way the panning works. I would think a hard pan would leave the opposite side mute but that's not the case. When I asked them about it they said it's by design and gave some explanation I can't repeat because I didn't get it.
That said there usually is no need to hard pan and it works pretty well when you use your ears.

I'm not enough of a pro guitar player to fully recommend the Big Box, guitar tone is so personal and some people swear by a certain brand, but I enjoy the amount of options it gives you - they sampled many many cabs with many different mics at various distances and angles. It's all very well organized into folders so it's easy to experiment with them.