Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...?

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2012/09/29 18:49:37 (permalink)

Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...?

I'm definitely in the exploring and experimenting phase of learning X2 (and actually X1, for that matter...)
 
Using the Sonar X2 'Tech Tips' as a reference, I was able to add "Audacity" to the X2 "Utilities" menu to use as an external audio editor (don't laugh too hard about using Audacity - this is just another $$ hobby for me!!)
 
Launching Audacity seems to work fine -
it will open with the selected X2 audio track ready for editing in the Audacity edit window.
 
My question is how to get the audio edited in Audacity to replace the audio in X2 -
It appears that I have to save the edited audio as a separate file, and import back into X2, which seems to defeat the purpose of calling Audacity as a utility from within X2.
 
I'm probably missing something in the process ~
Is there a way to apply the external edits in "real time" that doesn't require saving and reimporting the audio?
 
Thanks in advance!
 
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    scook
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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/09/29 18:56:57 (permalink)
    I followed these directions (probably the ones you used) http://www.cakewalk.com/S...reader.aspx/2007013099 for SoundForge and it edits in place, reloading the wav after I save and exit from SoundForge. Audacity should work the same. Make sure the "Type" is "WaveEditor" in the registry (step 24).
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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/09/29 19:09:46 (permalink)
    You should not have to re import anything after editing. All you have to do is simply save the edited wave but not change any aspect of the title of the wave. If you are concerned about wanting to get back to the original wave then do a backup before doing any editing.

    So the order of events would be save the session, open the editor and edit, resave the waves and reopen the DAW session. (I tend to edit in editors while the DAW session is not open.) Your DAW should be none the wiser as to the fact some aspect of that wave file has been changed. You may get a message informing you you that there has been changes but the session should open up as normal but now the edited waves will be in place.

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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/09/29 19:27:51 (permalink)
    Hmm, this may be an issue with the way Audacity works -
    it seems Audacity only directly saves to Audacity-specific project files, but will export to standard audio file formats.
     
    Darn -
    Might have to actually purchase an audio editor after all...
    Any recommendations for a reasonably-priced package?
     
    UPDATE -
     
    Yep, appears it was an issue with Audacity.
    I dug up an old copy of Adobe Soundbooth CS3, and it works just fine.
     
    Very cool -
    Thanks Guys!!
    post edited by rivers88 - 2012/09/29 19:45:52
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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/09/29 19:42:46 (permalink)
    Tha problem is that audacity doesn't actually work with wave files. It creates it own proprietary file which of course it can't send back to SONAR.

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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/09/29 19:44:30 (permalink)
    what about using / trying wavsaur which is free

    http://www.wavosaur.com/
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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/09/29 19:45:05 (permalink)
    As I indicated, I use SoundForge but here a couple of free ones that might work for you
    http://www.free-audio-editor.com/index.htm
    http://www.wavosaur.com/
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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/09/29 19:48:15 (permalink)
    Thanks for the additional recommendations!
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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/12/17 22:32:18 (permalink)
     Hi all.
     
    Hope is not lost with Audacity. I got it to work in X2!
     
    All you have to do (after entering it in the registry) is first call it up in X2 then modify in Audacity as needed then when you are done editing the file, you go to export selection (or export) and point to the tool copy folder that the wave is currently in. For example mine was in:  USERS\STUDIO\APP DATA\LOCAL\TEMP. Once saved in this folder it knows from now on where to save. Then it will ask if you want to overwrite file. Say yes. This is a sure sign it will work. Close out of Audacity and go back into X2. It will ask if you want to save modified file. Say yes or yes to all....VIOLA!
     
    Best to all...
     
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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/12/18 08:13:40 (permalink)
    VIOLA, indeed!

    Be careful when you do the Export As, that the file goes into the correct location. Normally, your SONAR project files will be in a subdirectory named Audio, within your SONAR project folder. So it will be different for every project.

    You might want to give Wavosaur a try. While lacking a few of Audacity's features, it does offer the convenience of saving your file in its original location with a simple CTL-S.


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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/12/18 08:25:20 (permalink)
    I always export my files to a temporary director called "Exported Files" (duhh) it sets on my desktop so I know exactly where it is. 

    I open the exported files OUTSIDE of Sonar with WAVEPAD and do my trimming and other things. I save the file in it's wave form after the edits. I also use WAVEPAD to convert it to an MP3 at whatever resolution I need. 

    I then move the files to their appropriate longer term folders. 

    that's how I do it. 

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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/12/18 09:21:22 (permalink)
    I'll have to give this a try with Goldwave and see how it works.  I don't need to do this very often, but occasionally.

    I've been exporting the track, opening it in Goldwave and doing what I want to do, save the file and then import it back into a blank track.  With this I have the original track plus the Goldwave modified track. 

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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/12/18 09:24:42 (permalink)
    Customizing the Cakewalk Tools / Utilities Menu
    http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/article.asp?ID=2


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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/12/18 14:56:55 (permalink)
    I've never managed to add any audio editor to the utilities menu on Windows 7  ,X2 64bit. I don't know why... Tried everything..
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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/12/18 15:17:00 (permalink)
    You can edit Utilites Menu using my Duckbar utility. It looks like this: http://sonarmods.com/publ...lities-menu-editor.JPG
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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/12/18 15:37:00 (permalink)
    Jackdied


    I've never managed to add any audio editor to the utilities menu on Windows 7  ,X2 64bit. I don't know why... Tried everything..

    Would it be possible for you to post screencaps of the 4 strings details in the key for the editor you want to use?




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    Re:Using external audio editor from within X1/X2...? 2012/12/18 16:06:11 (permalink)
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    You can edit Utilites Menu using my Duckbar utility. It looks like this: http://sonarmods.com/publ...lities-menu-editor.JPG

    Yessss! Thanks @panup! It worked :D
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