V Vocal Revelation

Yesterday was working with a Female vocalist who has a rich deep tonality to her voice, but when going to certain higher pitches she became a bit thinner and harsh.  What I discovered is that useing the Formant control in v vocal ( no pitch correction, formant only) I was able to dial in a matching full bodied tone! 
 
A nice discovery for us both, just wanted to share.

Nice!   So was the difference fairly artifact free?  I've never used the VV Formant control much myself...
 

Great, thanks.   One more good idea to store in the mental vault...
 

This is interesting to me for a couple of reasons:

1.  I found that moving notes in Melodyne maintains a more realistic and correct formant without the need to tweak, unless you move notes way out from the original pitch.
2.  On the other hand, when I use V-Vocal to change the formant, it usually sounds good if I don't go crazy with it; whereas, I have never been able to tweak Melodyne formants without getting a bad sound like a wrong tape speed.

What am I saying is that Melodyne seems to default better but editing in V-Vocal has better results.  I have no idea why or even how that would be true, but I hear it/

That's what the formant is supposed to do. 

And yes...in Melodyne the formant conforms automatically (if I understand it correctly) so that moving a pitch automatically changes the formant to match so the guesswork is minimized. 

Moving a pitch a little bit is virtually artifact free. I have moved some notes quite a distance and they remained artifact free. It all depends on the source of the note. 

That is a good thing to learn... it makes fixing vocals so much easier and gives you the confidence you need to tackle the "off normal" notes. 

musicroom

Sixfinger


Yesterday was working with a Female vocalist who has a rich deep tonality to her voice, but when going to certain higher pitches she became a bit thinner and harsh.  What I discovered is that useing the Formant control in v vocal ( no pitch correction, formant only) I was able to dial in a matching full bodied tone! 

A nice discovery for us both, just wanted to share.

I would love to hear the a/b example, maybe 10secs or so if you have the time. I find this to be very cool indeed. Either way - thanks for the tip! Between audiosnap and vvocal, I'm not sure which one I'm more clumsy with using. :)

i was thinking the same thing.
post an a.b of 10 seconds.
 
id love to hear the difference.

It's an extremely powerful and flexible part of V-Vocal.

I'm really pleased that others are discovering this for themselves.

No amount of "V-Vocal works fine on my system" can ever be a substitute for the knowledge you gain from playing around with it yourself. this is the sort of knowledge that sticks rather than learning it by rote.

And don't forget the 'T'' (timing) tab. Equally powerful, you can move those errant notes & phrases, eliminate massed 'S' discrepancies and all sorts of things

Happy editing!

Bristol_Jonesey


It's an extremely powerful and flexible part of V-Vocal.

I'm really pleased that others are discovering this for themselves.

No amount of "V-Vocal works fine on my system" can ever be a substitute for the knowledge you gain from playing around with it yourself. this is the sort of knowledge that sticks rather than learning it by rote.

And don't forget the 'T'' (timing) tab. Equally powerful, you can move those errant notes & phrases, eliminate massed 'S' discrepancies and all sorts of things

Happy editing! 

I checked this out more after your post. You're right - thanks for pointing this out.