VS-700 Roundtrip Latency

Hey everybody,

Just wanted to know what kind of roundtrip latency y'all are seeing with the VS-700. I'm about to build a setup for a friend, but it's crucial that we run full input monitoring on all channels....

Thanks for any info!
Rico

Hi Ricardo It is the situation where if you want full input monitoring through Sonar then the latancy performance is going to depend on the speed and the power of the computer. You may even find that even so the latency might not be be totally acceptable.

Now inside the VStudio system is a little software program that runs and it is called the direct mixer. So the direct mixer allows you to monitor all you inputs on the VS700R (and Fantom and ARX extensions etc) direct to main or sub outputs. There is no latency there and it is super fast and perfect for input monitoring. It is not fancy though and you cannot setup multiple headphone mixes or add reverb while tracking etc..(IMO the direct mixer could use a boost in features similar to PatchMix on the EMU soundcards) But it does get the job done.

If you want even more versatility the ideal thing is to run a digital mixer prior to the VS700R even. I had the V Studio for a while and used a digital mixer. The digital mixer gives you all the headphone mixes and effects you want for tracking etc. But even without the V studio the digital mixer can do many jobs similar to the V Studio. With the V Studio it is a very poweful setup. But V studio is good on its own as long as you are happy with the features of the direct mixer. Check the manual etc..

Jeff Evans


Hi Ricardo It is the situation where if you want full input monitoring through Sonar then the latancy performance is going to depend on the speed and the power of the computer. You may even find that even so the latency might not be be totally acceptable.

Now inside the VStudio system is a little software program that runs and it is called the direct mixer. So the direct mixer allows you to monitor all you inputs on the VS700R (and Fantom and ARX extensions etc) direct to main or sub outputs. There is no latency there and it is super fast and perfect for input monitoring. It is not fancy though and you cannot setup multiple headphone mixes or add reverb while tracking etc..(IMO the direct mixer could use a boost in features similar to PatchMix on the EMU soundcards) But it does get the job done.

If you want even more versatility the ideal thing is to run a digital mixer prior to the VS700R even. I had the V Studio for a while and used a digital mixer. The digital mixer gives you all the headphone mixes and effects you want for tracking etc. But even without the V studio the digital mixer can do many jobs similar to the V Studio. With the V Studio it is a very poweful setup. But V studio is good on its own as long as you are happy with the features of the direct mixer. Check the manual etc..

Jeff,
I can never go back to NOT using full input monitoring on tracking; there's just no substitute for running everything, headphones mixes and all, through all the EQs and other plugs. Even a lowly Dual Core i3 will run 24 inputs with 4 headphone mixes with ease.

In my opinion, this VS-700 should have come with a PCI-E card; some newer system can run at 32 sample buffer sizes and it's only gonna get better. I would have settled for around 5-6ms round trip.....

R

Hey Rico,

The new 2.0 driver brings the RTL down to 7.4ms at a 48 sample buffer. At a 64 sample buffer you get 9ms RTL, etc.

HTH

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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Hey Rico,

The new 2.0 driver brings the RTL down to 7.4ms at a 48 sample buffer. At a 64 sample buffer you get 9ms RTL, etc.

HTH

That's getting close...  Wonder how stable that is with high track counts.... Still, my ancient Motu 2408 setup beats the pants out of it; isn't that kinda strange?

R

R

It's reported that the VS 700 R is at the bottom of the table concerning efficiency/performance in comparison to the best usb interfaces. (approximately 30 % worse)

But as cdickey said, to the extent we cannot feel discomfort...

peter434


It's reported that the VS 700 R is at the bottom of the table concerning efficiency/performance in comparison to the best usb interfaces. (approximately 30 % worse)

But as cdickey said, to the extent we cannot feel discomfort...

Reported where? I'm running at 4.3 ms, can't even hear it at 6 ms.