VSC problem - Alternatives?

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2013/01/07 10:07:36 (permalink)

VSC problem - Alternatives?

Greetings,

I'm trying to use the following programs to get started with my 'home' studio:

Sonar Producer Edition
FastTrack Pro (M-Audio) 4x4
Roland Virtual Sound Canvas

Though, a problem occurs: Roland VSC isn't available for my version of windows (win 7 64 bit premium home) - Is there any other program just like VSC out there that would fit into 'Midi output' that Sonar asks when your first start it? I'd love if it was a freeware, though, I'm still interested even though it costs a low amount.

If I am anyhow unclear in the past text, please tell me so I can clarify.

Thank you,
Anthony Dupont
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    57Gregy
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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/07 10:45:10 (permalink)
    Welcome to the forum.
    Which Cakewalk program are you running?
    The DXi version of Edirol (Roland) VSC won't work (in 64-bit OS), but the VST version should.
    The MIDI Output that SONAR asks you to choose is a physical device (not a soft synth), such as the Microsoft GS Wavetable synth or any other MIDI device connected to the computer, such as your Fast Track. I believe that has MIDI ports. If that's connected to a MIDI keyboard/controller, you can select that. Well, you can select that even if it's not connected to a keyboard.
    Download Music Creator 6 for ~$50. That comes with Cakewalk's TTS-1 soft synth and I think it sounds better than the Edirol VSC. It also includes Cakewalk SoundCenter and Studio Instrument Drums VSTis. If your older program supports the use of VSTs. Older Cakewalk programs did not.
     
     

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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/07 11:13:31 (permalink)
    Hi,

    I'm using Sonar 6 Producer Edition (x64) - Where could I get that VST? It seems I can't find it anywhere.

    Thanks,
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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/07 14:12:23 (permalink)
    I'm sorry for the double post -

    Would this be good?Edirol.HQ.Orchestral.VSTi.DXi.v1.01 - 
    I got it, installed it but still, when I start Sonar it asks me for midi in and out, and I've been told it should appear in the Midi out (right now I only have Fast Track and Microsoft Midi Wrapper)


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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/07 23:06:28 (permalink)

    Anthony, welcome.
    This is probably going to seem harsh, but it's for your own good.
    I hope your av/spyware/malware software is up to date.
    I can only find the software you have listed on torrent/hacker sites.
    That's some bad mojo, bud.
    Sonar PE6 is eight years old. It did not natively support VSTs, and required a separate program to use them. This program was included with legit copies.
    VSTs will not appear in the MIDI I/O options you are looking at.
    They are treated in a very different manner.
    I very much join Greg in suggesting you download Music Creator 6.
    it is designed for your contemporary environment.
    It is a complete package.
    It has tutorials and help files.
    It won't invite a plague of locusts to visit your hard drive.
    Well worth $50, yes?

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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/08 00:12:02 (permalink)
    RobertB

    Sonar PE6 is eight years old. It did not natively support VSTs, and required a separate program to use them. This program was included with legit copies. 
    VSTs will not appear in the MIDI I/O options you are looking at.
    They are treated in a very different manner.
    Are you sure about this?  Sonar 6PE was the first version that I ever used and as far as I knew VST plugin support was native.  At the time (2007), there was talk of a "VST wrapper" on the forums but I was led to believe that it applied to older versions and not to version 6.

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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/08 02:24:48 (permalink)
    Kev is right. SONAR 6 does not need the CW VST Adapter, but has native VST support.

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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/08 08:31:05 (permalink)
    Oops. You guys are right.
    I was thinking too far back. I remember now that it was kind of a big deal that Sonar 6 introduced native VST support.
    Didn't Sonar 6 come with TTS-1? I know SHS6 did.

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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/08 23:56:50 (permalink)
    RobertB

    Didn't Sonar 6 come with TTS-1?
    Yes, but it won't work if he's running the 64-bit version of Sonar.  He will need to install the 32-bit application in addition to the 64-bit.

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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/09 05:24:07 (permalink)
    6PE introduced several new features, including native VST support, V-Vocal etc.

    TTS-1 has been around for longer than that, from memory

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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/10 17:57:40 (permalink)
    My uncle has the same version but he's running it on windows xp and he runs the 32 bit version, and when he starts Sonar, in the 'MIDI Output' prompt in the beginning, he has the Virtual Sound Canvas appearing. What should I do so it works?
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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/11 09:07:55 (permalink)
    What should I do so it works?

     
    The smart-aleck answer would be... get another computer running 32-bit XP.
    Roland has some info on the VSC here http://www.roland.com/products/en/VSC-MP1/
    but none of it is good for you...
    except the part where it says the VSC has both DX and VST versions included.
    You may be able to use it if you install and run the 32-bit SONAR PE and set the OS up to run SONAR in 32-bit compatibility mode.
     
    As far as your uncle having the VSC listed as his MIDI device, I don't know how that's done unless at some point he had the hardware VSC.

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    Re:VSC problem - Alternatives? 2013/01/14 23:30:07 (permalink)
    Okay, I installed Sonar 6 PE under 'Windows xp SP3' compatibility mode. VSC didn't want to install, so PGMusic said that ForteDXi could be used instead. Though, I still don't see ForteDXi in any field, that being either Instruments or MIDI Output

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