V-Studio 700 & Logic - Big Decision

Hi, a newbie here. I own a music store in the UK and we're opening a music academy and recording studio in the New Year. Its going to be purpose built and have 10 teaching rooms, a live room and a control room. All designed form the ground up, nicely sound proofed etc. 3500 sq feet in total. Exciting project. I am no technician and that seat needs to be filled as yet, so need help/guidance.

I am realistic and don't think we are going to discover/record the next U2. We are aiming at the kids from our current music school helping them go to the next level and making demos. Also kids pop parties and backing tracks etc.

I am a Mac nut and had decided to use Logic, however, a spanner has been thrown in the works...

We do good business with Roland and they have offered me a truly amazing deal if we put a VS-700 in our studio. I mean amazing deal. I am no technician, but I understand this is not a good idea to use with Logic. So my choices are:

VS-700 - with Logic and sod the bugs...
VS-700 - with Sonar
Another desk with my chose Logic

Help......

Tim

Yes can only recommend awaiting the new patch.... we have much hope in our hearts!

Best wishes for the new venture BTW.... brings back some memories and it is an exciting time.

Cheers.

@timboe Didn't the X2a update fix all the problems ? What's not working still with X2a that it doesn't equal the 8.5.3 OS ? Now, there were a few small issues listed in X2a, but what have you discovered that's big enough not to recommend it to a client now in X2a? Other than a few small omitted issues, the VS700 seems to have become pretty stable and solid, have you even upgraded to X2a?

I've been working with the V700C and X1d-Expanded. While I haven't done a real "system check", which by my estimation would require hours and hours of work and structured "workflow" scenarios. The different scenarios in X2 are going to be structure and command related as much as the structure and command in X1 expanded. Every different GUI is going to need a new command structure. That means, you will have to discover and interpret each new GUI and make the proper commands to it from the user interface. Be it the V700C or the keyboard. We all rely on programmed response, buttons or keyboard combinations that perform a function. But the task of composition and mixing and editing are a variable routine of variables. Many times I have to stop and figure out, what didn't work right, me, or the machine.

Thanks everyone for chipping in. Apologies if these are naive questions but is the 8.5.3 version older than X1 & X2? i.e. it had full integration but as Sonar evolves the functionality is deteriorating? And if so does anyone know if it will ship with 8.5.3. Otherwise, as some say it may be pointless. I am not precious about having the latest version, just something low cost that works. I would also like to sell Cakewalk products off the back of the installation to my customers/users. I woucl just get a Yamaha desk and rig, but I am quite loyal to Roland....

Cheers
Tim

Om selling my vs700r if anyone is interested.   $1150. Just private message me

 keep getting this message "operating system you are using is not supported. please check the supported operating systems. setup will be terminated. I am running windows 7 prof. 64 bit and the driver I am trying to install is for this operating system. my computer does not read the 700r but it reads the 700c. can anyone help me or point me in the right direction?
thanks
MGS

Hi
Have you upgrade your both rack and console to the latest version? I think it is v 1.31 just check firmware version.
Here is the link:
https://www.roland.com/us/support/by_product/v-studio_700/updates_drivers/
If you are using both unit together you need to install this driver:

V-STUDIO 700R (Rack) USB Driver Windows v2.0.2

befor you start to install make sure there in no left over driver in your computer. you should uninstall it first and restart the pc.
unplug the usb from your rack and install the driver first then it will tell you to plug the usb.
if you are using the same driver that I gave you the link, so try the driver with another pc or laptop just see if it shows the same issue or not.

help again please...I have drivers installed and I can track through sonar but I cant use all the  features  the 700 console has, no plugins and phantom stuff. when I go to options to select the 700c as the control surface I don't see it as an option like the book says, I get the following.
 
ACT Midi controller-1
Cakewalke Generic Surface
Mackie Control-1....and several others but no VS-700.
I can select VS-700 for in port and out port but that's it.
 
like I mentioned before I got this set-up with no insall disk and it has been a pain in the but!
any help would be greatly appreciated !!
thanks MGS

Thank you Rob  , everything works like it should

i have a question, after I mix and finished my projects, I pass them to a cd, but the volume is very low on the cd.
some one at the music store told me that i have to go in the sonar X3 producer and raise the volume on the software, is that so?
 

ok just updated to sonar professional, now I need new drivers and firmwear, not sure which ones to download. could someone help me with this? thanks

yes I had installed those form post #16 and they worked fine when I was using sonar 8, but niw I have upgraded and the console doesn't work again, un-installed all the drivers and reinstalled them just now and still got nothing. I am looking under the pull downs to see where I can chose a control surface like in sonar 8 but cant find where it is....I am very new to this and have never used midi stuff before just a two input interface to record guitar. not sure what to do here..what am I missing?

win 7