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Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-(

 
The taxpayer is spending £100million a year ­protecting the ­Queen and TWENTY other ­members of the Royal Family.
 
While frontline police services across the country are facing 25 per cent cuts, 1,000 officers are being used to guard the royals and their homes around the clock.
 
Most of those under guard are not considered at specific risk or to be terror targets – but still have individual protection teams. All of them have armed ­officers keeping watch on 16 properties around the country.
 
Those being guarded include Prince Edward’s children, the Queen’s cousin Princess Alexandra and Princess Michael of Kent.
A Sunday Mirror investigation can reveal the true cost of the royal security bill just a week after Buckingham Palace claimed that the cost to each taxpayer for homes and staff for the Queen and her family is just 62p a year – ­£38million in total and “value for money”.
 
But they failed to mention the cost of police protection.
 
While no official figures are available, sources say the cost of looking after the royals is at least ­£100million more – ­leading to a total bill of around £140million a year, or £2.25 for each man, woman and child in Britain.
 
The full extent of the bill for making sure the royals can sleep peacefully at night comes just a week after Scotland Yard’s most senior anti-terror officer, ­Assistant Commissioner John Yates, ­described planned cuts to police services as “eye-watering”.
 
And Shadow Home Secretary Alan Johnson said: “We will all be in greater peril and the streets will be less safe if these measures are introduced.”
 
The Royalty Protection Squad of ­London’s Metropolitan Police, known as SO14, consists of around 120 people ranging in rank from a sergeant earning £50,000 to chief superintendent on £80,000-plus.
 
A third of them earn a “special allowance” bonus of up to £15,000 a year after passing the rigorous selection process.
The remaining two-thirds are support officers and civilian staff, who can also claim big ­allowances and ­overtime.
Aside from senior royals such as the Queen, Prince Philip, Prince Charles and his sons William and Harry, personal protection officers are also given to minor members of the family.
 
They ­include the Queen’s cousin ­Princess Alexandra and Prince Edward’s two children Lady ­Louise Windsor and James, Viscount Severn.
 
Each royal has up to five ­highly-trained armed officers to look after them.
 
There is also an “intelligence unit” to assess any threat from terrorists and “fixated persons” using information from other police forces and the ­security services.
 
The Met devotes 400 more officers to ­guarding royal ­residences in London, ­including Buckingham Palace, St James’s Palace, Kensington Palace and Clarence House.
 
Thames Valley Police also has a royal protection squad as part of its operations department, consisting of 120 uniformed ­officers who guard the outside of Windsor Castle and Prince ­Andrew’s home, Royal Lodge. The Met provides officers inside the castle.
 
When the Queen visits ­Balmoral for two months every summer the Met sends dozens of uniformed officers to Scotland. Grampian Police also have their own patrols and armed ­response vehicles, while each royal who visits brings their ­personal protection officers with them.
 
A similar arrangement is in place at Sandringham, which is ­permanently guarded by around 20 ­officers and dedicated armed ­response teams.
 
Charles’s Gloucester home at Highgrove has 30 or 40 local ­officers looking after it, with a unit billeted at Camilla’s personal home Raymill House just a few miles away.
 
Other royal residences guarded around the clock by local police include Edward’s Bagshot Park home in Surrey and a ­cottage in North Wales rented by William and girlfriend Kate Middleton.
 
The last serious incident ­involving a royal was 36 years ago, when deranged Ian Ball tried to kidnap Princess Anne in The Mall and hold her to ransom. Her personal bodyguard and driver were shot in the attempt.
 
A spokesman for the Met said: “We do not discuss matters of security and protection.”
 

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/15 22:56:12 (permalink)
i think every time you get to see prince charles and those ears is good value, gives me a good laugh anyway, and the sons william and harry can represent good comical value at times, especially harry
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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 02:02:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/03/16 21:23:20
I've never understood the whole royal thing.  Seems like that would've faded away decades ago.

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 02:08:46 (permalink)
The queen is NOT amused!

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 02:18:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Slugbaby 2017/03/16 20:49:49
happy member of the commonwealth here . . .god save the queen
 
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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 06:01:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2017/03/16 22:44:26
Just heard that Harry's father is probably Diana's horse trainer and not Charles.  Steps are being taken to confirm his parentage. 
 
Personally, my money is on Diana's horse...

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 06:06:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/03/16 06:17:21
fwiw, we just had a program air here, current affairs/60 minutes type thing, it might have been that dude, the interviewer asked him the question if he was harry's father, he said nay
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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 06:17:32 (permalink)


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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 06:27:03 (permalink)
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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 08:22:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby paulo 2017/03/16 13:14:50
I'm not a fan of the Royals, Steve but..
 
A Sunday Mirror investigation can reveal...

 
That would equate to some bloke in a pub told some other bloke 'what he reckoned', wouldn't it?
 

 
 

 
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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 13:25:08 (permalink)
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I'm not a fan of the Royals, Steve but..
 
A Sunday Mirror investigation can reveal...

 
That would equate to some bloke in a pub told some other bloke 'what he reckoned', wouldn't it?
 

 
 




 

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 20:49:03 (permalink)
I lost respect for that family when Windsor Castle caught fire.

They didn't insure it because the costs were prohibitively high.  Then, when they needed it, they pulled out an obscure 500-year old law that said the public had to pay the repair/reimbursement costs anyway!  

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 21:37:33 (permalink)
Is it only American politics that we aren't allowed to talk about? There are far greater political issues than the Queen to discuss, like human Cheeto's in public office.

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/16 21:56:57 (permalink)
Unless one is a cheeto oneself.  Have more empathy!

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/17 12:51:27 (permalink)
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Is it only American politics that we aren't allowed to talk about? There are far greater political issues than the Queen to discuss, like human Cheeto's in public office.


Under British rules our Royal family is apolitical, they are basically a living tourist attraction that brings more money into the country than it costs to maintain them.  "Stories" like the one re-posted in the OP are simply to cash in on the tinfoil hat brigade and sell more newspapers, thus making more money off the back of the very people they're complaining about...

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/17 16:17:43 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby SteveStrummerUK 2017/03/17 20:16:00
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Is it only American politics that we aren't allowed to talk about? There are far greater political issues than the Queen to discuss, like human Cheeto's in public office.


Under British rules our Royal family is apolitical, they are basically a living tourist attraction that brings more money into the country than it costs to maintain them.  "Stories" like the one re-posted in the OP are simply to cash in on the tinfoil hat brigade and sell more newspapers, thus making more money off the back of the very people they're complaining about...


 
Uh oh, now you've done it....
 
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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/17 17:34:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2017/03/17 17:45:54
Mrs Windsor has been on the throne for eight years longer than I have been alive... I'm not looking forward to the day when she pops her clogs...
 
I heard, today, that Mr G. Osborne, a UK politician, earns £650000.00 a year for working four days per month advising a US global investment management corporation. I certainly raised an eyebrow at that...

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/17 17:50:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2017/03/17 18:40:35
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Mrs Windsor has been on the throne for eight years longer than I have been alive... I'm not looking forward to the day when she pops her clogs...
 
I heard, today, that Mr G. Osborne, a UK politician, earns £650000.00 a year for working four days per month advising a US global investment management corporation. I certainly raised an eyebrow at that...


Yes he was quite popular from 2002 - 2005 and earned a considerable sum of money in the states. Still, The Osbournes didn't get good ratings on IMDb.....only 5.5/10......quite sad indeed.

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/17 18:17:55 (permalink)
My favorite Osborne
 


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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/17 19:33:24 (permalink)

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/17 22:33:41 (permalink)
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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/18 16:40:56 (permalink)
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Under British rules our Royal family is apolitical




Seriously?
 
Charlie boy enjoys and demands unfettered private access to ministers, and has abused this anachronistic privilege of his 'position' for decades. Not to mention the 'black spider' letters (and more so his efforts to conceal their content) that prove he wields influence and leverage over those politicians he's keen to sway to his ideologies.
 
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... they are basically a living tourist attraction that brings more money into the country than it costs to maintain them.  


 
This oft-spouted and tired rationalisation is ridiculous on a number of levels.
 
The economic argument is easily refuted. Do you honestly believe that cities such as Venice, Paris, Rome, Moscow, Dublin, New York or Vienna suffer any lack of tourism because their countries have long seen fit to abolish their respective monarchies? In fact I'd argue that by ejecting Betty and her inbred bunch of benefit-scrounging parasitical chinless wonders from their various palaces and castles and other tax-payer funded piles, and by opening these historic building to ticket-purchasing souvenir-buying punters, the country would actually benefit from a direct increase in tourist revenue.
 
However, even if it were the case that the royal family did attract more tourist money that it cost the rest of us to keep them wallowing in the lap of extreme luxury, I'd still argue that the fundamental principle of having an unelected head of state was more important than any other consideration.
 
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 "Stories" like the one re-posted in the OP are simply to cash in on the tinfoil hat brigade and sell more newspapers, thus making more money off the back of the very people they're complaining about...


 
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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/18 19:09:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/03/18 22:45:56
That would be a cool feature if one could have a *text track* in addition to all the music.  A place where one could put lyrics, but see it in relation to the time line.  

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/18 19:42:10 (permalink)
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That would be a cool feature if one could have a *text track* in addition to all the music.  A place where one could put lyrics, but see it in relation to the time line.  




I'm going to guess that this reply was Royally placed in the wrong thread. 

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Re: Value for money royals ........... pfft & harrumph :-( 2017/03/18 19:43:51 (permalink)
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Do you honestly believe that cities such as Venice, Paris, Rome, Moscow, Dublin, New York or Vienna suffer any lack of tourism because their countries have long seen fit to abolish their respective monarchies? 




Well, New York does have Queens so that has to be even better than only having one (Charles doesn't count). 

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