DrLumen
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Velvet or EP88?
I'm trying to see which may be the better deal. I see waves has the EP88 on sale for $39. The Velvet is part of the Air complete upgrade which is $80 US. The Lounge Lizard is $99 from cakewalk or part of the $299 upgrade for Platinum.
So any suggestions on the instruments? Is the EP88 any good or just a waste of money? Or is the Velvet comparable to the EP88 and LL? I might add I'm really not to sure I need yet another set of pianos but want to take advantage of the sales if they are worth the cost.
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/11 12:56:43
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DrLumen
I'm trying to see which may be the better deal. I see waves has the EP88 on sale for $39. The Velvet is part of the Air complete upgrade which is $80 US. The Lounge Lizard is $99 from cakewalk or part of the $299 upgrade for Platinum.
So any suggestions on the instruments? Is the EP88 any good or just a waste of money? Or is the Velvet comparable to the EP88 and LL? I might add I'm really not to sure I need yet another set of pianos but want to take advantage of the sales if they are worth the cost.
While the EP88 can be had for $29 at EveryPlugin with the KV146 code, the AIEP Complete for $80 gets you a WHOLE LOT for few dollars more. The QUESTION is...do you need MORE? 
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DrLumen
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/11 16:37:36
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I don't really need more synths. I was trying to get an idea if someone has experience with the pianos and how they compare. The sampled ep's in the synths I have are ok but seem somewhat limited. If the Velvet is the better one then I will spring for it. The price of the LL will be a harder sell for me unless everyone says it's the best.
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DrLumen
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/11 16:52:50
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Nevermind. My bad. I found a comparison of these and more on youtube. I should have searched first. Thanks anyway.
Thread can be closed.
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/11 17:53:17
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DrLumen
Nevermind. My bad. I found a comparison of these and more on youtube. I should have searched first. Thanks anyway.
Thread can be closed.
Which direction did you choose?
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/11 17:53:34
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I have the Lounge Lizard Session that comes with Sonar and I decided to get the Electric88. It was $20 cheaper than the LL upgrade. I really like it. Is Velvet $50 or $60 better? Not to me.
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/11 20:30:47
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They way I look at it is LL at $49 upgrade. I can install on two systems. I think that deal is still there.
EP88 - $80 on two systems. Unless you want to mess with a USB stick or their cloud. Plus the WUP harassment.
Velvet - single machine license, iLok protection which can create conflicts with the evolving Windows 10.
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/11 20:52:38
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/08/11 22:53:17
Lounge Lizard: tiny modeled footprint with amazing sound.
EP88: larger 'cause sampled but still small with good sound yet (too) short decay.
Velvet: (much) larger 'cause sampled but with a nicely full sound.
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/11 22:50:33
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Fleer
Lounge Lizard: tiny modeled footprint with amazing sound.
EP88: larger 'cause sampled but still small with good sound yet (too) short decay.
Velvet: (much) larger 'cause sampled but with a nicely full sound.
That pretty well explains it. Well done, Fleersy.
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/11 23:48:01
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I try, BD, as I learn from the best ;)
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DrLumen
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/12 18:01:41
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The comparisons I found pointed to a Premier Mark 96 or something like that. When I went to go look it up I found it was out of my comfortable price range.
I guess for those of you with SPlat, the LL upgrade is $49 but for me, the full version was $99. I also tend to lean toward sampled sounds as I'm kinda burned on modeled sounds. Not that there is much wrong with them other than me having some some bad experiences. A lot of the soundblaster voices still make me cringe.
So, based solely on Fleer's comment I went for the Velvet as part of the Air Complete pack. If I don't like it I will hold fleer to task. Just kidding! All things considered it seemed to be a highly regarded group of instruments and was a good deal. Now, If I can just get the serials from PB and make it through all the iLok shtuff...
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/12 21:57:35
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☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2016/08/13 07:02:11
I love my Velvet, DrL, you will too!
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DrLumen
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/13 04:18:23
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Fleer
I love my Velvet, DrL, you will too!
I'm looking forward to getting my Supertramp on! :)
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/13 06:52:17
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I really like the modeling instruments like AAS LL-4. Was thinking about upgrading Session version to the full, but cannot justify spending 50$ for it, considering so many great options for Rhodes and Wurli EPs I already own, especially Velvet which is very usable and great sounding instrument. Can't go wrong with it.
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DrLumen
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/14 01:32:50
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I finally got it installed and authorized. Love it, love it. I've been tinkering for hours. I haven't found a bad sounding preset yet. They all have a unique character. The velocity curve is spot on and the balance across the keyboard range is very good too.
I haven't explored all the other Air Complete instruments much but what I have seen is pretty cool. I haven't even touched the plugins yet.
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/14 01:56:23
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LL is my go to EP. Good dynamic range and expressive. Small footprint. You can also tweak the sound and get a huge variety of EP sounds. With sampled EP you get a very realistic sound but you can't change much compared to the physical modeled EP. Don't forget pianoteq 5 also has an excellant physical modeled EP.
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Re: Velvet or EP88?
2016/08/14 08:50:56
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☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2016/08/14 11:32:17
Absolutely, those Pianoteq electrics are up there with Lounge Lizard on the modeled front. But there's still something about sampled pianos, electric or not, that fills the room in a different way. Less tweakability and playability, sure, but that sound, that sound ...
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