Video editing in X3

Sanderxpander
To be more specific, you can of course mix a multitrack project while a video plays along, you just can't cut the actual video or apply transition fx or whatever. So import your video precut, then mix your audio alongside. Move the audio to fit the video.

cpkoch
 

Sanderxpander
To be more specific, you can of course mix a multitrack project while a video plays along, you just can't cut the actual video or apply transition fx or whatever. So import your video precut, then mix your audio alongside. Move the audio to fit the video.

 
Songs don't lend themselves to being moved, cut and pasted in order to synchronize with video.  Seems to me (although I've no expertise)  that Sonar is so close (one is able view each individual frame) to  to being able to delete or copy-and-add frames of video that it would be a no-brainer to incorporate such a feature ... wouldn't it be?  

cpkoch
My question  remains ... "Isn't it a no-brainer to incorporate cut, copy and paste features into Sonar and avoid the hassle of going to another piece of software to do it?"!

FuddyDuddy
+1 to the Sony Vegas/SoundForge suggestion.  I recently purchased the "older version" of Vegas Studio (version 11) on Amazon for about $35, and it came with SoundForge and some other goodies.  It is an excellent, full featured editor that allows me to cut visuals to music, and manipulate music to fit visuals.  With X3 Producer, Vegas, and SoundForge I feel that I finally have a complete, powerful set of tools for creating music and video.

dubdisciple

Marcus Curtis
I for one am no longer a fan of Sony Vegas. I have Sony Vegas and Sound Forge. I used them on videos all the time. I use to export an avi format and then import that video into Sonar. Then I worked on the audio track. Once the audio is complete I export the audio from Sonar and import that back into Sony Vegas. From there I export the video into what ever format I choose.
 
The problem is the avi format is huge. I just shot a new video series that would be 92 gigs of footage in avi. but it is under a gig in mp4 format. I am glad that Sonar has expanded the format options in one of their updates to X3. This makes things a lot easier.
 
The problem I have is sometimes I get a green tint to the video in Vegas. This is in the mp4 and mov formats. The problem seems to be a conflict issue with Sony Vegas and Quicktime. I was able to isolate the issue only to discover that the problem is only in Sony Vegas.
 
I say all of this because if your looking for a third part solution to video while working with Sonar you might want to consider your options. Before you spend your hard earned money on a third party video program you should look to see what else is out there.
 
Just Yesterday I purchased Adobe Premier. I ran a test and found out that all the video that will not work right inside Sony Vegas works flawlessly in premier. Adobe just changed it's business model to a subscription based software model.
 
Instead of shelling out expensive hard earned money for Vegas you can get the full version of everything adobe makes including adobe premier for just 50 bucks. When you activate your account you also get connected with your own ULR. You also get things like Photoshop and Adobe Elements which gives you the ability to animate graphics in your video.
 
I can already tell from just the little work I have done with Adobe Premier that it is an awesome program. I personally like it better than Sony Vegas and 50 bucks is a lot cheaper then the 499.00 for the full Vegas suite.
 
For my situation adobe Premier and elements are now my favorite applications for video. Sonar X3 remains my favorite application for audio. I will probably use a combination of these too products when I produce videos in the future.

Oops..hit the helpful button instead of the quote.  I think the jury is still out on whether the Adobe cloud model is an improvement or not. No doubt it saves money short term, but longterm the savings only come if you are a person who regularly uses most of their programs AND grabs EVERY upgrade.  Adobe , like many software companies occasionally releases upgrades that one may find completely useless.   I use Adobe cloud and have mixed results.  Every now and then it glitches on the monthly authorization and I am a few others have been without use of software at critical moments.  That scenario rarely happens but once is too many IMHO.  As a person who has used both Vegas and Adobe Premiere extensively I know the advantages and disadvantages of each well. Vegas, for the beginner, is much easier to use.  Once you get beyond beginner phase it becomes a draw since "ease of use" with most programs comes down to familiarity. As far as features, the Adobe Suite totally kills Vegas in terms of raw power. After Effects adds far more compositing and motion graphic capability than anything Vegas can offer.  Some of that difference is reduced via third party apps, but the same ones are available to Adobe users and then some.
 
Comparing $49 to $499 is not quite fair because after a year if you decide you no longer wish to pay, you have NOTHING.  Your program ceases to work and you don't even have the version you have been using to work with.  Vegas will likely work until the OS you are using becomes obsolete.  You are comparing the rental price to buying.  Again, this model works to your advantage if you are the kind to never skip upgrades.  Before the cloud model, Adobe was already making it harder to skip upgrades by punishing users who did in the form of severely reduced savings compared to other products.  When Macromedia was acquired they completely trashed their upgrade policy .  It cost me a lot of money since I skipped a couple of upgrades based on Macromedia's more user friendly upgrade model.
 
Anyway, obviously I am using Adobe over Vegas but it is with caution. Adobe's integration helps sell it along with more third party compatibility.