Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out

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2015/11/11 13:34:15 (permalink)

Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out

https://www.esoundz.com/sounds/vinny-appice-kit-for-bfd2-3/5448.html

Kit size: Over 3.5GB (installed)

Kit: ddrum

Grooves: 0

Kit pieces:

• Kick
• Snare
• Toms: 1 - 6
• Hi Hat
• Ride
• China
• Crashes: 2 (17" and 18")
post edited by gmon72 - 2015/11/11 14:04:24
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    cclarry
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/11 13:36:46 (permalink)


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    gmon72
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/11 13:39:09 (permalink)
    This forum hates me posting links! Thanks Larry.
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    Leadfoot
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/11 13:39:13 (permalink)
    Whoa.... I'm in. One of my absolute favorite drummers! He may not be Neal Peart, but he's got a style all his own, and he friggin beats the crap out of his kit! I'm sooo getting this! Thank you for posting this!
    post edited by Leadfoot - 2015/11/11 13:50:30
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    gmon72
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/12 18:45:29 (permalink)
    Just got this installed. These sound great. Best SR BFD kit yet IMHO. Has lots of character.
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/12 21:38:26 (permalink)
    I heard they had a new kit coming! And my ePointz can be used with the sale price for a total cost of $37.75.
     
    SCORE! :)
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/13 19:18:00 (permalink)
    For nostalgia my want factor is 101%.
     
    For actual need my want factor is 46.8%
     
    What to do? What to do?
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/13 19:21:20 (permalink)
    That math was pretty accurate for me too having seen Dio on the Last in Line tour. Short answer: buy it.
    post edited by smallstonefan - 2015/11/13 21:01:29
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    JohnKenn
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/13 20:41:46 (permalink)
    Okay Bapu,
     
    If you got the fluid cash, buy the damn thing.
     
    Appice was a legend. Still feeling my shirt flutter as he pounded away with Vanilla.
     
    Hey, but on second Alzhiemer's thought, was mixing up Carmine with his younger brother Vinnie...
     
    Never mind...probably a cool drum set anyway...
     
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/15 13:15:11 (permalink)
    The demos sound really good but I wish they'd give more info about the kit and how it was recorded.
    I bought the Neil Pert kits and was really disappointed to find there were no direct mic channels for the cymbals.
    It's little things like that that make a big difference.
     
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/15 13:51:52 (permalink)
    These have direct mics and have volume more in line with other packs.
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/15 14:54:45 (permalink)
    twaddle
    The demos sound really good but I wish they'd give more info about the kit and how it was recorded.
    I bought the Neil Pert kits and was really disappointed to find there were no direct mic channels for the cymbals.
    It's little things like that that make a big difference.
     
    Steve



    Hi Steve - I have the Neil Peart kit up right now, and I see all cymbals on their own channel in BFD 3. Am I missing something?
    post edited by smallstonefan - 2015/11/15 15:09:17
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/15 15:16:52 (permalink)
    They are in their own channel but when you hit a cymbal are you seeing any signal register in the direct channels?
     
    If you take out all the ambient mics you should discover that the cymbals become mute, that's because there are no direct mic channels. If you have direct channels then something is wrong with either mine or your version.
     
     
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/15 15:28:06 (permalink)
    Definitely no direct in the Peart and Epik Drums. Part of the story is that Ken Scott engineered this the way he did did back In the 70s to get the sound he was looking for.
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/15 15:45:47 (permalink)
    Ah, I didn't know that, thanks!
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/15 16:47:39 (permalink)
    But to be clear the Vinny Appice kit has direct mics on the cymbals.
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/16 07:37:14 (permalink)
    OK I just played around with this with the Peart kit and I find it odd. It words as you described - only in the ambients. But, you can replace a cymbal with something else and it still plays - does that make it direct?
     
    This is the first time I've run into this so it's new to me.
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/17 06:15:55 (permalink)
    smallstonefan
    But, you can replace a cymbal with something else and it still plays - does that make it direct?



     
    Not sure what you mean by the above, by "something else" I'm guessing you mean another cymbal/kit piece?
    If that's the case then that just means the other cymbal/kit piece was recorded with direct channels too.
     
    And what do you mean by, "it still plays"? What still plays?
     
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/17 10:43:14 (permalink)
    I just meant swapping out a cymbal for a different cymbal in my library. That still plays a sound with a groove. I'm confused, because I would assume the swap out would then create a direct channel and not use the ambient mics.
     
    I'm thinking I don't understand something about this routing...
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/17 11:18:08 (permalink)
    My assumption is cymbals can have both direct and over head channels recorded, when you swap a cymbal both will be available if they exist through the appropriate channels.

    If you turn off the overhead and ambient channels and use the direct channels you will find your replacement cymbal sounds but the other do not as there are no direct channel recordings.

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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/17 11:44:39 (permalink)
    Ah! I think I get it thanks!
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/11/17 12:10:57 (permalink)
    BFD3 will always by default load a direct channel for any kit piece whether direct mics were used in the recording or not (even for a triangle). All the BFD3 cymbals and expansion kit cymbals I own have direct mic channels apart from the Neil Peart ones.
     
    Some of the BFD3 cymbals have, Direct, Overhead, Room, Amb3 as well as 3 mono channels.
     
     
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    Re: Vinny Appice Drums for BFD out 2015/12/28 20:19:35 (permalink)
    I just bought the Vinny Appice Kit and messed with it for about an hour. This set is friggin SLAMMIN! It's my new go to kit. If you're into rock, check this out.
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