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Violin players?
What's the difference between a fiddle and a violin ?
Who cares - neither one's a guitar
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/16 00:09:12
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eph221
What's the difference between a fiddle and a violin ?
Who cares - neither one's a guitar
[pedantic] Actually, as soon as Jimmy Page used a bow with his guitar, it became, by definition, a fiddle. HTH. [/pedantic]
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2017/02/16 00:14:14
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George Harrison: Segovia...he's the grandaddy of us all! Segovia..(when told what harrison said) They're not even my illegitimate grandchildren! This is the cervantes like atmosphere I grew up in with classical guitar. I've become more of a rodney king character in this polemic. 
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2017/02/16 01:07:29
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☼ Best Answerby eph221 2017/02/16 16:45:21
I was once told that a "violin" is played by a classically trained and disciplined musician. A "fiddle" is played by a novice who is just "fiddleing" around with it. Therefore the instrument's name is determined by the gravitas of the player. Maybe true, maybe not, but it makes a good story anyway.....
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/17 02:22:15
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I never gnu that, thanks savageopera!
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/17 06:15:57
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☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/02/21 19:08:48
eph221
What's the difference between a fiddle and a violin ?
Who cares - neither one's a guitar
They're the same thing, it depends what music is being played on it (violin - classical, fiddle - folk/traditional) Sometimes fiddles have a flatter bridge to better enable chords and drones for folk/bluegrass style music.
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/17 09:41:42
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I'm just finishing up my 1st year of violin/fiddle lessons. I set out to learn "fiddle" as opposed to violin. My teacher grew up playing Irish "fiddle" but she's a music major in "violin". So I'm kinda learning both :)
Basically if you learned fiddle, you need to go back and re learn everything the right way .
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/17 10:50:25
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Starise
Basically if you learned fiddle, you need to go back and re learn everything the right way .
Or if you learned violin you need to g back and re-learn everything the right way :-) It depends on what you want to play really. Though there's a strong argument that the traditional fiddle styles of Britain/Ireland/Scandinavia and the US fiddle styles that are based on those are a direct descendant of the way the violin was played in the Baroque era with a short bow stroke, emphasis on rhythm, the use of drones and double-stops and minimal vibrato. The warm, slow attack, soupy, warbly vibrato style coming along later and being given a big boost by the popularity of Fritz Kreisler in the early 20th century.
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/17 13:27:52
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eph221
What's the difference between a fiddle and a violin ?
Who cares - neither one's a guitar
They're the same thing, it depends what music is being played on it (violin - classical, fiddle - folk/traditional)
Sometimes fiddles have a flatter bridge to better enable chords and drones for folk/bluegrass style music.
As subtly pointed out above... A violin is a fiddle, but not necessarily the other way around. A cello is a fiddle. A viola is a fiddle. Jimmy Page's guitar became a fiddle. A fiddle is any stringed instrument that is used with a bow although musical genres have become a second definition almost (violin for classical and jazz, fiddle for bluegrass, country and folk).
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/17 13:29:15
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I wonder how a Stradivarius feels enduring the "Orange Blossom Special"? Ecstatic or violated?
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 03:09:55
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eph221
What's the difference between a fiddle and a violin ?
Who cares - neither one's a guitar
They're the same thing, it depends what music is being played on it (violin - classical, fiddle - folk/traditional)
Sometimes fiddles have a flatter bridge to better enable chords and drones for folk/bluegrass style music.
As subtly pointed out above...
A violin is a fiddle, but not necessarily the other way around. A cello is a fiddle. A viola is a fiddle. Jimmy Page's guitar became a fiddle.
A fiddle is any stringed instrument that is used with a bow although musical genres have become a second definition almost (violin for classical and jazz, fiddle for bluegrass, country and folk).
I can't handle all the nuance! 
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 04:10:56
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/02/18 12:57:42
That's the trouble with middle-aged old men, they end up knowing stuff.
Whether it's any use, however...
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 12:10:29
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True, but combine knowledge with a lack of a sense of humor? Deadly.
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 12:22:27
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I thought you said sarcasm was childish?
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 12:27:40
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I stand by my statement. Some people think sarcasm is rhetorical.
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2017/02/18 12:41:47
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2017/02/18 12:55:46
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 12:59:30
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 Plus I like to answer rhetorical questions. 
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2017/02/18 13:01:41
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2017/02/18 13:16:33
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2017/02/18 13:21:38
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 13:25:39
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I didn't find Sting's laughing fit sincere, sorry.
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2017/02/18 13:38:19
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 13:48:21
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Yes, texts outlive their authors, and become part of a set of cultural habits equal to, if not surpassing, the importance of authorial intent.
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 13:50:44
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☄ Helpfulby craigb 2017/02/18 16:19:14
I think you overthink everythink.
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/18 16:19:51
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 Ah, the 60's...
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Re: Violin players?
2017/02/19 14:12:57
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we're bein played man, we're bein played!
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