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2012/03/18 14:46:35 (permalink)

Vocals Mic Recommendations

I'm looking for a decent vocals microphone in the price range of $200. I'll most likely be getting a pop filter along with it so any recommendations for that would be helpful as well. This is purely for recording within Sonar. Nothing live at all.

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/18 16:27:30 (permalink)
    http://www.sweetwater.com...io/studio-microphones/ Not an endorsement for any place that sells mics. Some people swear by AKG. All you can do is read the comments and reviews and look different ones up on the Internet for reviews, or go to a store and try out what they have for a mic.

     
     
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/18 16:34:19 (permalink)
    I did not buy a AKG but a Sennheiser Condenser which cost enough for me. Could not edit first post.

     
     
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/18 16:37:02 (permalink)
    Thanks for the link.

    It's surprisingly difficult to know which suits what type of sound you're looking for. I know the basic differences between each variety but it's pretty hard to pinpoint one even in a certain category. I've read through many reviews and ratings without any sure choice. Some say one is good for instruments while the next person says it's completely suited to vocals only.
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/18 19:57:26 (permalink)
    Personaly I find you may need a different mike for each different singer. If it's only going to be you, then you will want to audition the mikes until your happy. Example, I cannot sing though a SM 58. , it sounds terrible. But there are other mikes I sound fine through. In the studio I use this $150 Audio technica dynamic  mike. The number wore off 15 years ago I beleieve there was a 10 on it. Any how find a store that will set you up with a good set of headphones and a bunch of mikes.

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/18 20:25:54 (permalink)
      I'll have to find a retailer around me that provides that kind of service. I appreciate the info. I have actually noticed that even in headsets, each picks up my voice in a different way. There will be more than one person using this mic however. 
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/18 23:49:17 (permalink)
     Some say one is good for instruments while the next person says it's completely suited to vocals only. 
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 00:16:40 (permalink)

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 00:36:16 (permalink)

     
     
    KSM42  $799
    There are whole books written on microphones. They do design each with a certain purpose in mind. Classic is the SM58 is a vocal mike and the SM57 a instrument mike. Put a wind sock on a SM57 and there you go, a vocal mike, Put a 58 on a sax and it will work just fine can you hear any difference? probably not , o well you get the picture. If this mike is to be your only mike that is used for both female and male voices it will be harder to find the perfect mike that works perfectly for all. I wouldn't ask us anyways, I would ask the guy in guitar center... . ;> I don;t own this but got to use one at a live concert bluegrass band shared just this one mike it was stellar..I know it's out of budget but this is what I have set my sights on..
     
     
     http://www.shure.com/amer...enser-vocal-microphone
     
     
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 00:44:08 (permalink)
    For it's price I would take a chance on this one too, At $100 it's gotta be useful.I have always found Audio Technica mikes to sound excellent for the money, just don't drop them... They used to be made in Japan. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AT2020/
     

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 00:47:00 (permalink)
    I would buy this one too, just for the looks and the wooden box
     
    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Bluebird/
     
    $299 not bad for a hand built mike.
     

     
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 01:44:14 (permalink)
    Sorry, the forum won't let me edit, so I have to repost to include the promo code GREEN12 is $30 discount (expired, but still works as of now). http://www.guitarcenter.c...-103997235-i1170936.gc

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 06:20:32 (permalink)
    As a general all round mic that will work on most sources, and at a reasonable price, you won't get much better value for money than the Audio-Technica AT-4033



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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 07:08:56 (permalink)
    I have a friend with a studio in Pennsylvania.  He went to the Eastman School of (recording) music back in the early 80's.  He has a whole slew of mics for different male voices and different female voices, along with his instrument mics. 

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 09:15:13 (permalink)
    Check out the Apex 460 tube condenser. It's multi-pattern, gets a lot of good write ups on the web, and it's in your price range. I have one and love it.

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 11:30:09 (permalink)
    For anyone possibly interested in the GC deal, $30 promo expired. BUT, this promo code works for an extra $18 off (until the end of march): MARCHMAD9

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 15:18:37 (permalink)
    http://www.gauge-usa.com/

    good mics and very affordable condensors. 


     the Shure SM-58 is always a reliable vocal mic as well and can be bought for around $100

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 16:46:53 (permalink)
    Listen I own a Shure SM58, and about any Condenser worth a little more will blow it away. In fact I have an old Altec Lansing Mic I used more than any shure that came out. I know Condensers costs more, and perhaps a good preamp will make any difference also to make a Condenser sound even better, but really, a SM58 Dynamic Mic is what it is, not that good at all. And a Condenser will probably need 48V phantom power, but that usually is included with audio interfaces or a preamp for the mic or a studio channel with EQ to change the way the mic sounds.

     
     
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 16:48:58 (permalink)

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 17:18:18 (permalink)
    Your budget is a bit low.  I have several mics for vocals.  I have a Groove Tubes GT66. an Audio Technica AT4033, a CAD E-100 and a Studio Procects C1.  The C1 isn't the best of the bunch but it is usable and in your budget.  I bought it used as I did on two of the others.  If you can find a used one you may be able to get more bang for the buck.

    If you want a vocal mic, you want a condensor.

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 18:34:05 (permalink)
    Problem with the C1 is that the high end is harsh.......my advice for $200 is to find a used SM7 dynamic (you can get one new for approx. $300)......that mike will work on anybody and takes eq well.....a Gauge 47 tube condenser is a good mike for the $

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/19 18:37:12 (permalink)
    Sorry.
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/20 06:38:10 (permalink)
    I have a Beta 58 that I sometimes use, depending on the singer.  Seems to work better than my condenser mics in certain situations.

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/20 09:54:19 (permalink)
    A person can get a reflexion filter for a condenser mic (or mic) also. http://www.sweetwater.com...php?s=reflexion+filter Those work!

     
     
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/20 10:30:47 (permalink)
    Last night I did a recording session with a female vocalist. I used my SM-58 and my Rode NT-2A to track 5 takes of a new lead vocal.  

    We started tracking with the Rode NT-2A .....recording 3 tracks

    Then, for grins, I decided to record 2 more tracks using the 35 year old SM-58 I had laying around.

    I used a pop filter on all the takes. 

    There is a definite difference, as I would have expected between these two mics. The Rode was louder, and had a more present, intimate sound quality as well as better (cleaner)  lows and sparkling highs.  I was recording with the gain set about 5 or 6 on the input to the interface channel. 

    The 58 needed the gain cranked a bit to get a robust wave in the track. Somewhere around 7 or 8,  I would guess.  The wave was nice and robust as well. Proximity played a much larger role in the sound of the 58. After a few takes, we recorded 2 tracks with her singing right up on the pop filter and the mic sans windscreen about 1" behind the pop filter.  A few takes without the pop filter showed we needed the filter. At first, she pulled back 6" to 12" to belt out the chorus on the 58 like she did on the Rode, but loss of the proximity effect killed the quality of the track on the chorus. We retracked it  with her "eating the mike" the entire take. Much better. Surprisingly, it did not overload the 58 doing that as I feared it might. She was strong and loud on the chorus. 

    The highs  were rolled of a bit just from the natural sound of the mic. Nothing unpleasant, but a noticeable difference in tone and overall sound quality was evident between the 2 mics. 

    I actually did a trial playback with the 58 vox on lead with 2 of the Rode vox tracks panned opposite and way down, and it sounded pretty good. 

    Plans are to correct vocals and see what is what in those tracks today or tomorrow as I head toward the final mix. 

    You gotta remember, the 58 and it's companion the 57 are the industry standard work horse on stage for just about everything up there.  It's not a bad mic and if it's the only one you have, you can't go wrong using it. Yeah, a nice condenser is better, and if you have one, use it. In a pinch, the 58 rocks. 


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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/20 11:00:57 (permalink)
    Sorry.
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/20 12:43:06 (permalink)
    Using a cardiod pattern on a condenser makes it about the same as a dynamic mic like a (yes for 40 years it's been a workhorse on the stage) SM 58 or SM 57, when the choice of mics to use was seemingly much less than the pletora of mics nowadays. Sides and Rear up to 18dB less.

     
     
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/21 00:16:01 (permalink)
    Sterling ST77 or ST79 is a great mic.
     
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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/21 01:52:24 (permalink)
    Lance,

    Thank you for posting the link. My favorite would be the TLM-103, but the ECM87 sounds really good. I am surprised!
    I recently got myself a Sennheiser MK 4, and I love it.

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    Re:Vocals Mic Recommendations 2012/03/23 16:50:25 (permalink)
    Cheers Wilko! 

    I use one (ECM87 ;) - they are awesome and the company owners are really cool!

    I also work with TLM-103 through an Avalon sp737 at least 4 times a week.

    My ECM87 goes through a Presonus Eureka (awesome clean sound, love the compression).

    Honestly, I enjoy the results of each setup equally.

    It is amazing what is available today at decent prices.

    That being said, not every cheap mic is created equal. Many of them are harsh in the upper mid frequencies.
    I can say the ECM87 is smooth smooth smoooooth-

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