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2012/11/24 23:12:20 (permalink)

Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs

http://soundcloud.com/moo...s-pro-voice-over-first


The Story - My friend Kevin is trying to get into the voice over industry. Kevin doesnt want to drive all the way to Zion, Il from Chicago to my Studio. My lap top cant handle sonar when I travel weekely to where he is in oak lawn,  so I record him on my Ipad in garage band with an MXL v 67 Mic 


We record 7 voice overs ... The first three are distorted -- But the wave forms on the ipad were not distorted -  I couldn't hear the mic through the head set as we were recorded - a flaw in garage band on ipad - you can only hear when playing back tracks but not WHAT you are recording and the wave forms didnt look distorted

So hopefully tomorrow  we will re record them at a lower level - They are just barley almost not distorting now 

The last 4 are fine - but could be mixed better I think 

Just finished putting original music to the voice overs from precvoius songs I never really finished  - MIXED IT IN SOANRX1


So tell me what I need to improve on - I know one thing is matching the volume on each Voice over  - What else?


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post edited by Mooch4056 - 2012/11/24 23:15:26

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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 00:24:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Well there's 147 seconds I won't get back.


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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 01:03:51 (permalink)
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Well there's 147 seconds I won't get back.

You're mean and you hurt my feelings 

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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 01:32:30 (permalink)
This is a desperate cry for help... Someone should punch you in the face. (and by punch, I mean a nice Hawian Punch.) Get this **** off the songs forum and back to the coffeehouse where it can be ignored. Seriously? Eff ... Why do you feel a need? And this is coming from someone who feels a need? If you have no talent? Then deal with it? If you have talent? The post something "OTHER THAN BS..." Really... 
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 01:43:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
I'll preface this by saying, I am not an expert...but I have recorded and mixed several VO's recently.

Thoughts as it played - unless there is a specific situation calling for it, I wouldn't add reverb.  The first VO sounded like it was in the garage and a bit distracting.  

-You already mentioned the volume matching and distortion thing, but I would also try and automate the volume to level out the 'performance' as much as you can, while also minimizing the spitty sounds 'esses' lip smacks (I didnt notice lip smacks in any of these).

-Sometimes the music can be really busy and distracting, but if you are stuck with the music, then maybe more EQ'ing and lower in the mix is the way to go.

-I don't think that mic works well with his voice...or maybe a combo of the mic/voice and room...it reminds me of a cheap USB microphone going in to a boom box.  Is a reflection filter available?  If you are stuck with the recordings "as is" then maybe some EQ can help.  I would have a redo, with a nice mic in a vocal booth/reflection filter or a decently quiet room, if he wants to be a serious venture. 

I wish him well, it's a tough business to break in to


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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 11:29:00 (permalink)
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This is a desperate cry for help... Someone should punch you in the face. (and by punch, I mean a nice Hawian Punch.) Get this **** off the songs forum and back to the coffeehouse where it can be ignored. Seriously? Eff ... Why do you feel a need? And this is coming from someone who feels a need? If you have no talent? Then deal with it? If you have talent? The post something "OTHER THAN BS..." Really... 

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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:12:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Zion, IL... I lived there for a while in the mid '70s... just a few thousand feet from the lake...  
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:21:30 (permalink)
Needs more fan in the background.
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:27:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Actually the first one sounds the best to me. It mostly needs to have the sibilance reigned in. There is some slightly noticeable distortion but I think that could get brought under control as well. The rest are muffled and distorted. I would avoid whatever you did with those. It takes away from the guy's voice.

Do you not have a small mixer or something to attenuate the input level?

Also, needs some side chain action going on to get the music levels up when he isn't speaking.

Just what I'm hearing.
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:28:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
And if you can't use something to attenuate the input with maybe try some other mics that aren't quite as hot.
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:29:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Yay! Helpful! ;-)
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:31:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
I thought my fan comment was helpful.

See, it's "too hot" at times. Get it? Too hot. Fan.

Never mind.
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:32:02 (permalink)
The Voice over man is coming to zion. I talked him into driving to zion and trying out my different mics and using my pre amps rather than using the ipad ...so we re do it next week 

Hopefully this is ok with lpmike ...God forbid I post a better version 

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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:33:47 (permalink)
Here:


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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:35:54 (permalink)
Thanks Bapu 

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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:38:08 (permalink)
Ya, that makes more sense. However if you stuck in a situation like this again bring a couple (clean) socks with you to put over the mic. I'm too cheap to buy proper windsocks and popscreens so that's what I do to keep down sibilance and plosives. Try one sock at first and if it's not enough toss the other one on. I've also been trying to use two mics at once. One with a sock right up in my face and another one a few inches further away with no sock. That way if I get a really bad plosive I can edit it out and use the second mic track to cover make up for it. 

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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:38:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
What are pals for Mooch. Roight?

I'm sure you're gonna get better results in your studio than with your iPad.
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:39:38 (permalink)
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Ya, that makes more sense. However if you stuck in a situation like this again bring a couple (clean) socks with you to put over the mic. I'm too cheap to buy proper windsocks and popscreens so that's what I do to keep down sibilance and plosives. Try one sock at first and if it's not enough toss the other one on. I've also been trying to use two mics at once. One with a sock right up in my face and another one a few inches further away with no sock. That way if I get a really bad plosive I can edit it out and use the second mic track to cover make up for it. 

Yes... I'm weird... but I gitterdun. ;-)

That 'splains the smell I get when I listen to yer vocal tracks?
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:39:58 (permalink)
BTW... R-Mix kicks arseticles as far as removing fan and background noise if you haven't tried it yet.

I'll shut up now.
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 12:41:06 (permalink)
That 'splains the smell I get when I listen to yer vocal tracks?

There is also the matter of my breath. Do they smell like gin and failure?
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 14:17:32 (permalink)
Nicely done.

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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 15:05:29 (permalink)
Just from a mastering standpoint, the first VO sounds louder than the rest.  I'd agree that there's probably too much reverb on it, too.  Other than that, the music works and it's well recorded.  Good job, Mooch.  

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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 15:09:07 (permalink)
Ya, that makes more sense. However if you stuck in a situation like this again bring a couple (clean) socks with you to put over the mic. I'm too cheap to buy proper windsocks and popscreens so that's what I do to keep down sibilance and plosives. Try one sock at first and if it's not enough toss the other one on. I've also been trying to use two mics at once. One with a sock right up in my face and another one a few inches further away with no sock. That way if I get a really bad plosive I can edit it out and use the second mic track to cover make up for it. Yes... I'm weird... but I gitterdun. ;-)

 
This is actually a helpful post!
 
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 15:16:22 (permalink)
Well shoot.. I am not clever enough to comment and not knowledgeable enough in VO to make an intelligent comment... but I can see no reason for any of the rude comments in a post asking for input. I thought/think it sounds pretty good. The guy has a good voice, it could use a little more of that early FM radio deep vibe.
 
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 15:41:17 (permalink)
Yeah, I'm hoping that one freaky post was an inside joke of some sort. :-/
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 17:14:29 (permalink)
Only Mooch would bring commercials to the Songs Forum .

I'd not give up the day gig quite yet.
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 18:10:38 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'm hoping that one freaky post was an inside joke of some sort. :-/

No ... He's just a jerk ....Bapu and I haze each other in fun ...I think everyone here knows that .....

Sometimes I'll joke sarcastically with other people .... I suppose I've been a jerk a few times in my life although I don't like admitting it 





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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 19:31:38 (permalink)
Sounds cool, Paul.  Sounds like you've got plenty of help here.  :) 
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 19:33:15 (permalink)
Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs



But the "lyrics" were covers, roight?
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Re:Voice Over - With Original Music by Mooch ... not like Bapus all cover songs 2012/11/25 19:52:25 (permalink)
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Well there's 147 seconds I won't get back.
You're mean and you hurt my feelings
You sound like my first 3 girlfriends, one bro-mance, my first wife, and my future x-wife current wife.

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