Volume Envelopes and Editing

If you do a punch in recording, is there any way to tell what the real volume of the recordings are so you can match them up? Or, as I suspect, do you have to do it by ear with volume envelopes?

I know sometimes it is easier to just record it over again, but I would like to try and use these other tools so I can do better recording and mixing.

Any tips on cut and paste would be good too. I usaully set the snap to grid to 128th. I have never tried absolute time. Not sure which is better to use. I try to use the time line as much as possible for cutting and pasting, e.g. cut 2 measures and paste 2 measures; however when you do that the actual recording may be slightly different. Is this where you would have to use the nudge feature?

Thanks.

Annette

ORIGINAL: Beagle
or if the clip is less than a measure that I want to move, I'll set the resolution lower, cut the clip, then increase the resolution size to quarter notes so that when I move it, I can visually tell if I've moved it in time (when moving from one track to another in the same time).

This is the scenario I was trying to describe and haven't been able to do. I just tried your method, but didn't get far. I usually use the split function. When I tried the cut, as soon as I right click, it highlights the whole track. When you change it to quarter notes, is it just increasing the resolution?

Thanks.

Annette

oh - and your now time marker should go to the nearest resolution point where you right clicked anyway.

I don't understand what you mean by "it cuts the whole track" - do you mean it deletes the whole track?

i have never seen behavior like that, nor can I duplicate it. I'm sorry - I don't know.

Must be something new, Annette, I've never heard of that happening, and I always use the sciccors tool.
What does the pop-up dialog read in S8?
Also, when copying and pasting clips, it's handy if you know when the clip you're pasting starts.
Say you have a short part, and it's perfectly on-time. Right-click the clip and select properties. Note the start time of the clip, let's say it's 8:02:031. You want to use that same part later in the song in measure 48, and you want it to be on-time, too. So you right-click the clip, copy. Then you can immediately right-click again and select paste. Then change the start time in the paste dialog to 48:02:031, you don't even have to move the now line to measure 48. Click OK and the clip is now on-time in measure 48.

Hi Annette

I can't replicate what you're seeing in S8 although I do see why it appears the Split (Scissors) Tool is 'selecting' parts of the audio.

Bear with me Annette and work through this little exercise with me - if you can let us know exactly when it all goes pear-shaped then I'm sure we can resolve your problem.

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Open up S8 and record about 6 or 7 measures of audio in Track 1 - as in this screenshot:



(This shows the clip de-selected, i.e, with a green background; clips that are selected in other screenshots have the black background)

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Set Snap To Grid to Half and select the Split Toll.

Left click in the clip at the beginning of measure 4.

The whole clip will become 'selected' and you'll see the split line appear where you clicked:



The whole clip becomes highlighted to show which clip has been split. If you click outside the clip to deselect it you'll now just see the split.

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Now we'll do another split at the start of measure 5; do exacltly as before but this time you'll notice that only the area between the previous split and the end of the audio become selected:

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Click outside to deselect and try another split - this time we'll split measure 4 in half:

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Deselect measure 4 and your project should now look like like this:

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Steve

I'm at a loss I'm afraid Annette - can you do a screenshot of the dialogue box?

Boy, now I know why it is much easier to just re-record the track until you get it perfect. I am trying to copy measures and then cut and paste them in other parts of the track. I want to select measures 35-43. When I select the 43, it highlights the track from 43 on. So I go to 35 and click on it..I tried with both the control key and shift key, but it then selects 35 to the end of the track. It has to be something in the set-up ???? Oh, I tried de-selecint the events in track and that doesn't work either.

Here's how it looks in SHS 6:



It's gray until selected, then it turns blue. When I split, the track is not selected (doesn't turn black):



You must have the "Special Edition" scissors, Nutty.

nutty... just dialing in..... I NEVER use the scissors..... (just because).... here's how I do it....

I highlight the track by clicking it.... then.... (BTW: I DO USE ABSOLUTE TIME.... it allows very precise positioning of the curser). I right click on the track where I want the SPLIT. A window opens and I select SPLIT... there is a time value...that allows you to enter the number of the measure, beat and ticks where you want the split to occur. I normally zoom in to see my split point better.

Make your second split the same way, and you can delete the clip, copy it drag it..... whatever you want to do with it....without affecting the remainder of the track.

Just to add to my *special* version of Cakewalk products I seem to acquire...this has happened a couple of times now. I'll start to record and it will show as a fat line. So, I stop thinking I've done something wrong. Then, the wave forms magically appears. So, I hit the record button waiting for the count-in bars and introduction...and sure enough more wave forms show up! I guess I must be over taxing the software?

I don't know...

Definitely,

Nutty