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2018/08/14 08:14:13 (permalink)

W10 ver 1803 failed again

I have no idea what it is with W10 f'updates but something in the home network gets broken between machines.  Usually a mapped drive no longer works.  You will see the other machine on the network but can't access shared folders.
 
  Network discovery doesn't always work nor does turn off password protection sharing.
 
  I go through plenty of youtube videos and websites addressing these issues and still fail.  The issue is always with shared and mapped drives.  Two are fine on 1803 but one system could not access my main system's shared drives. 
 
  I don't know if MS is trying to be Apple like with these features I could care less for but I think I would prefer going back to buying an OS upgrade and them releasing a few service packs.  I never had issue with W7 and I miss how networking drives was great for the totally ignorant in XP.
 
 Keeping them offline is not an option.

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/14 10:24:48 (permalink)
I recall seeing something about a change in this area with 1803.  I don't have local or shared drives so I didn't really pursue it.  
 
Look over posts or do a search on the www.tenforums.com as there are posts about this.
 

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/14 11:21:39 (permalink)
I do not know if this is related or will work for you but I have had trouble at work accessing our server.  Our IT tech believes MS updates are the cause and showed me a quick fix. "Run" \\server and it resets/finds and reconnects almost immediately.  Sorry, I don't know anymore than that - hope it helps.
 
I have been very fortunate at home with MS updates but our friend Jim Roseberry set it up so there you go!
post edited by fwrend - 2018/08/15 13:06:05

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/14 12:21:24 (permalink)
If you're still having an issue, roll back to previous version of Win10.
 
If you have the Pro version, there are two registry tweaks that'll stop all Automatic Updates.
That way, you can make sure you have an up-to-date backup image file prior to installing any updates.
If anything goes wrong, just reload from your backup image file.
 

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/14 13:03:02 (permalink)
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If you're still having an issue, roll back to previous version of Win10.
 
If you have the Pro version, there are two registry tweaks that'll stop all Automatic Updates.
That way, you can make sure you have an up-to-date backup image file prior to installing any updates.
If anything goes wrong, just reload from your backup image file.
 




What are those settings, Jim?

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/14 18:22:56 (permalink)

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/14 20:08:00 (permalink)
 There are no shortage of resources on this issue.  A quick fix is a freeware program called Advanced IP Scanner. Teamviewer always works.
 
 Nice that MS allows you to roll back. 
 
 The odd thing on the machine that had to be rolled back again system restore was not on either.
 
  After awhile you get annoyed at reading 72 articles and videos on this subject.
 
 

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 00:46:23 (permalink)
Jim Roseberry
If you're still having an issue, roll back to previous version of Win10.
 
If you have the Pro version, there are two registry tweaks that'll stop all Automatic Updates.
That way, you can make sure you have an up-to-date backup image file prior to installing any updates.
If anything goes wrong, just reload from your backup image file.
 




With Pro, you don't even have to touch the registry.
 
There are settings in the Group Policy Editor that will handle that for you.
 


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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 01:19:12 (permalink)
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Jim Roseberry
If you're still having an issue, roll back to previous version of Win10.
 
If you have the Pro version, there are two registry tweaks that'll stop all Automatic Updates.
That way, you can make sure you have an up-to-date backup image file prior to installing any updates.
If anything goes wrong, just reload from your backup image file.
 




With Pro, you don't even have to touch the registry.
 
There are settings in the Group Policy Editor that will handle that for you.
 





How does one start the Group Policy Editor?

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 01:25:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2018/08/15 12:16:52
Run - gpedit.msc
 
Windows Components > Windows Update > "Configure Automatic Updates".

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 02:04:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2018/08/15 12:16:56
That's it!
 
The full path is: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > "Configure Automatic Updates".

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 15:13:45 (permalink)
With the particular Registry Tweak I mentioned, you (also) won't be bothered by Update Notifications.
ie: We've got one particular client who doesn't want update-notifications popping up while Slash, John-5, etc are over recording.  Many other folks feel the same.
 
The Group Policy Editor is great for shutting down unwanted components and tweaking Win10 more to your liking.
After having/using it, I can't imagine not having that control.
Most criticisms of Win10 can be addressed/resolved via the GPE.

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 15:16:40 (permalink)
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With the particular Registry Tweak I mentioned, you (also) won't be bothered by Update Notifications.
ie: We've got one particular client who doesn't want update-notifications popping up while Slash, John-5, etc are over recording.  Many other folks feel the same.
 
The Group Policy Editor is great for shutting down unwanted components and tweaking Win10 more to your liking.
After having/using it, I can't imagine not having that control.
Most criticisms of Win10 can be addressed/resolved via the GPE.




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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 16:12:56 (permalink)
With the GPE policy in place to disable updates, I have never seen a Win 10 update notification in over two years.  I haven't touched the registry in this regard either.
 
Nor have I gotten any updates until I click the "Check for Updates" button (after I take an image, of course). 

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 16:20:55 (permalink)
I assume you have the parameter set to "2", correct?
"Notify before downloading and installing any updates."

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 16:28:02 (permalink)
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I assume you have the parameter set to "2", correct?
"Notify before downloading and installing any updates."




Nope!!!
 
Set the policy to "Disabled".  Read the blue highlight in the pic that I posted earlier.  Literally, read it... no kidding!
 
This way it completely disables the automatic updates, and the only way to get updates is to click on the "Check for Updates" button manually in the Windows Settings GUI.  Then Windows will check and install any available updates for your system.
 
So by disabling the policy, it is like being completely off line from Windows Update, until you press the button.

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 16:51:37 (permalink)
Cool.
It's the same as placing "NoAutoUpdate=1" in the Registry.  

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 17:39:05 (permalink)
I need a group policy called "Keep boneheaded MS developers from messing up your home network".
 
I've read that assigning static IPs solve this but I haven't researched how to do this yet.
 
http://www.infopackets.com/news/10369/how-fix-computer-name-wont-resolve-network-april-update
 
http://www.infopackets.com/news/10330/how-fix-win10-april-update-rdp-mapped-drives-broken
 
 

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 17:53:37 (permalink)
I'm friends with a Microsoft developer named Tim Noonan.
On The Gear Page forums, I talked about using the GPE to disable "annoying" Win10 components like Cortana.
Turns out... Tim developed much of Cortana.
Put my foot in my mouth on that one...  

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 17:53:55 (permalink)
Pretty sure Tim has been on these forums a few times.

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 18:00:48 (permalink)
Jim Roseberry
I'm friends with a Microsoft developer named Tim Noonan.
On The Gear Page forums, I talked about using the GPE to disable "annoying" Win10 components like Cortana.
Turns out... Tim developed much of Cortana.
Put my foot in my mouth on that one...  




That's pretty funny.

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 19:25:31 (permalink)
Jim Roseberry
I'm friends with a Microsoft developer named Tim Noonan.
On The Gear Page forums, I talked about using the GPE to disable "annoying" Win10 components like Cortana.
Turns out... Tim developed much of Cortana.
Put my foot in my mouth on that one...  




Not really.  I've tried Cortana before and it's search 99% of the time took me to the web.  We are a different user base and not the #1 priority at MS.  It is nice that a developer hangs out there.  To be a developers I think having a heavy flame suit is a requirement.

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Re: W10 ver 1803 failed again 2018/08/15 21:41:32 (permalink)
Tim is both a friend and a client... and a pretty good guitar player.
His response was actually very friendly and funny.
IIRC, Tim said (jokingly) that I was, "crushing his soul".  

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