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2018/01/31 20:54:12 (permalink)

WA76 / WA-2A questions

hey folks,
i have a few questions about these hardware compressors:
Warm Audio WA76 / WA-2A
i hope u can help me out
let me start.
1. are both mentioned compressor mono compressors? or is 1 of them stereo or can be used as a stereo compressor?
2. does it make sense to use 2 hardware compressors? like a combo of WA76 and WA-2A? Does it make sense?
3. how would you approach this, using the first hardware compressor while recording and the second one as an insert in ur daw?

thats all for now, I would be very grateful for your willingness to help me
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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/01/31 23:11:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2018/01/31 23:44:05
WA-2A is a copy of the LA-2A
WA76 is a copy of the 1176
 
LA-2A provides a slower, smoother control over dynamics.
1176 provides a faster, more aggressive control over dynamics.
 
All depends on what you're after.
LA-2A is great for "reining-in" dynamics without the audio sounding squashed.
It's not great at eliminating quick peaks.
 
1176 is great if you want to make a track sound more aggressive... or if you want tight control over dynamics.
 
The combination of LA-2A and 1176 can cover most (broadband) dynamics processing needs.
 
 

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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/01/31 23:46:57 (permalink)
I love them in series. Ditto to Jim's comments.
Zen Pro Audio offers a mod that will link two WA76, if you buy a pair from them. That may be true of the WA-2A, too, but I haven't checked.
I really like my WA76, though mine is an early run and I only got the one.
Next time...
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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/02/01 18:19:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2018/02/01 18:41:23
Yes to all the above.  The WA2A has the stereo option built-in, but it is hardly a good candidate for the two buss since it is so slowwww.  Just right for vocals and many basses, but passing a whole mix through it, well, you'd have to think a lot about how you record and mix to make that happen.
 
I guess Zin Pro would modify an WA76 for stereo, but it would cost...
 
You can use either going into your interface (if you have an external pre for mic use or if the interface has inserts, which few do in these price conscious days) or from a previously recorded track.  In the latter case, you could put compression on or either or both or on every track.  You are just shunting it out and recording back in.  But one of the things that make either of those "classic" compressors stand out is the fact many, if not most tracks from the 60s/70s had a limited number of 1176s/LA2As available and they were usually only used on the lead tracks or important rhythm instruments.  So those elements really popped out - think how smoothly the vocal chorus in many pop/rock songs slide into the lead guitar - volume wise.  Some of that had to do w/ sending each of those tracks to the same comp during mix down since they only had the one available, so both instruments had the same feel and floated above the rhythm tracks with the same intensity .  I still have aux channel just that purpose.
 
The 1176 clones are probably more useful on more instruments, but the LA2A defines the sound of vocals on many, many popular tracks.  Once you get a grip on either of those comps, and how they effect the sound, you can use that live, during tracking, where it becomes like an instrument itself.  Each of those units has a "tone" that you've heard - an edge to the 1176 from saturation, while the LA2A adds a syrupy fullness to the sound from the tubes etc.  It can be quite a rush when you get that same tone from your home brewed tracks.
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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/02/01 18:41:47 (permalink)
The first time I heard them in series it was indeed, a rush!
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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/02/01 19:05:57 (permalink)
PS, Warm makes good .. analog emulation hardware, regardless of price.  They are in the same family as the originals, from what I can tell, and that's what counts.  Some people must have this or that revision and I'm sure half of them can tell the difference.  But I wouldn't have either unit if it weren't for the Warm and friendly prices.  Because I'd probably stick w/ software, which is also pretty darn good, too.  But the hardware is more fun.
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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/02/01 22:10:53 (permalink)
AT    It is more fun.........   and maybe it's the way I have "grooved" my brain, but it seems much easier with hardware. LOL
 
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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/02/05 12:28:35 (permalink)
ok thanks
 
a last simpel question: so mono compressors are there for compressing single tracks, but if i need a compression on mastering (the whole track) then the mono compressors arent suitable therefor?
 
so for mastering u need a stereo comp?
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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/02/05 13:22:15 (permalink)
kakashix
so for mastering u need a stereo comp?



Yes, or two "linked" channels from two mono compressors
If the two channels aren't linked, if one of the channels has a higher peak than the other, it can cause the compressor to squash that channel harder... causing the audio image to "skew".
 
If the channels are linked... and one side has a higher peak, both channels will be compressed equally... thus preserving the stereo image.

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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/02/06 09:51:58 (permalink)
nice thanks for the advice.
 

one more point:
 
if i cant set up my compressor into my daw (because im dumb) could i just run my recording files into 2 compressors before reaching my daw? so: mic preamp > compressor 1 > compressor 2 > audiointerface?
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Re: WA76 / WA-2A questions 2018/02/06 15:58:04 (permalink)
Sure you can run one comp into another. La2a and an 1176 are a classic config. But you should figure out what each comp does before recording your experiments.
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