WOW! Amazing Deal!

Author
vicsant
Max Output Level: -63 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1378
  • Joined: 2003/11/06 20:44:33
  • Status: offline
2012/01/12 21:54:52 (permalink)

WOW! Amazing Deal!

Tascam 2448Neo

At this price and features, this would be a fantastic add-on/complement/partner to a Sonar X1 DAW setup!
How could they give it out at such a ridiculous price????!!!!!

Thanks Tascam!!!!
#1

19 Replies Related Threads

    js516
    Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 347
    • Joined: 2006/05/17 15:14:53
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/12 22:47:03 (permalink)
    I have one. Its wonderful when you don't want to deal with a PC. However there are some issues with it:
     
    1) no automation
    2) although it responds to midi, it does not transmit anything beyond transport control and midi sync/clock.
    3) the built in gm synth was removed from the neo
    4) limited effects capabilities
    5) screen is small, though it could be worse.
     
    It has good routing capabilities and has good preamps for an all-in-one. it is nice to be able to turn it on, plug in some mics and hit record in under a minute. :)
    #2
    daveny5
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 16934
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 09:54:36
    • Location: North Carolina
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/12 22:54:56 (permalink)
    For a lot less money, Sonar gives you a lot more function and its a lot easier working with a computer display than a little LCD display like the one on the TASCAM. 

    And Alan Parsons hasn't been relevant since....... EVER!


    Dave
    Computer: Intel i7, ASROCK H170M, 16GB/5TB+, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Sonar Platinum, TASCAM US-16x08, Cakewalk UM-3G MIDI I/F
    Instruments: SL-880 Keyboard controller, Korg 05R/W, Korg N1R, KORG Wavestation EX
    Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp, Shure SM-58 mic, Rode NT1 condenser mic.
    Outboard: Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer, TC Helicon VoiceLive 2, Digitech Vocalist WS EX, PODXTLive, various stompboxes and stuff. 
    Controllers: Korg nanoKONTROL, Wacom Bamboo Touchpad
    #3
    vicsant
    Max Output Level: -63 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1378
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 20:44:33
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/12 23:00:35 (permalink)
    js516


       
    It has good routing capabilities and has good preamps for an all-in-one. it is nice to be able to turn it on, plug in some mics and hit record in under a minute. :)


    For quick and easy 24 track recording @ USD 499, how can it get any better?  And you can always upload the wav files to Sonar X1 for additional MIDI and audio recording...

    Wish they would upgrade it with a DVD drive for quick and easy data backup.
    #4
    daveny5
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 16934
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 09:54:36
    • Location: North Carolina
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/12 23:09:12 (permalink)
    For quick and easy 24 track recording @ USD 499, how can it get any better?



    Are you a salesman? You can get Sonar X1 for $399 and it does so much more. Does this have softsynths like True Piano, Dimension Pro, Rapture? No. Sonar can be updated. This can't. 

    Dave
    Computer: Intel i7, ASROCK H170M, 16GB/5TB+, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Sonar Platinum, TASCAM US-16x08, Cakewalk UM-3G MIDI I/F
    Instruments: SL-880 Keyboard controller, Korg 05R/W, Korg N1R, KORG Wavestation EX
    Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp, Shure SM-58 mic, Rode NT1 condenser mic.
    Outboard: Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer, TC Helicon VoiceLive 2, Digitech Vocalist WS EX, PODXTLive, various stompboxes and stuff. 
    Controllers: Korg nanoKONTROL, Wacom Bamboo Touchpad
    #5
    TStorms
    Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 336
    • Joined: 2005/01/01 18:05:04
    • Location: Joisey
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/12 23:36:13 (permalink)
    daveny5



    For quick and easy 24 track recording @ USD 499, how can it get any better?



    Are you a salesman? You can get Sonar X1 for $399 and it does so much more. Does this have softsynths like True Piano, Dimension Pro, Rapture? No. Sonar can be updated. This can't. 

    Yeah, $399 + $1500 for a computer to run it on, LOL! All in one DAWs are still useful for quick and dirty stuff or in situations where I want to record but my PC isn't there - I still use my VS880 to record live piano tracks in my living room then fly the tracks into Sonar down in the studio - and, I'd probably use it even more if it had good preamps with phantom power and it was easier to get the tracks into the PC (as the Neo would certainly be). Don't worry, even with the best salesman in the world and at $499, the Neo is not likely to put Cakewalk out of business - one doesn't exclude the other...
     
    p.s. I'm sure the Neo can be updated if necessary - thing is, these things are usually rock solid and don't need updating.

    Hipatitis (n): Terminal coolness. 
       
     Platinum on Win 7 Intel i7 870 8GB Ram Crucial SSD WD Raptor 10K RPM TC Electronic StudioKonnekt48 Akai MPK49
    #6
    M@ B
    Max Output Level: -68 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1128
    • Joined: 2010/01/05 20:54:54
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 00:01:37 (permalink)
    If it was a control surface too, then maybe, but since it's not, why bother? I'd rather get a lapper and use Sonar with my vstudio100. Although, i used to have a VS880EX and it was quite cool, but it broke and i got a computer with Sonar. The potability of those things is really great, but like i said before, i'd just get a laptop.

    #7
    vicsant
    Max Output Level: -63 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1378
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 20:44:33
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 00:04:47 (permalink)
    daveny5


    Are you a salesman? You can get Sonar X1 for $399 and it does so much more. Does this have softsynths like True Piano, Dimension Pro, Rapture? No. Sonar can be updated. This can't. 


    No...I'm a full time musician, and I teach basic audio recording at a local university here.

    I was just amazed that this unit costs this much. I was seriously considering upgrading to the Octa-Capture for $699 (Sweetwater).  But this unit (a plug and play 24 track DAW?) at $499 beats the Octa hands down....

    If there's a better deal somewhere....please let me know. 

    I love SX1 and DAW recording and  all it's benefits...but this Tascam unit is the best value for money deal at the moment...surely you must agree with me on this point....

    :)
    #8
    konradh
    Max Output Level: -42 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3325
    • Joined: 2006/01/16 16:07:06
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 00:05:51 (permalink)
    I used a stand-alone for a long time and they can be good and this is certainly a good deal. However, I got frustrated with the inability to use plug-ins and virtual instruments, and the editing is really tedious compared to a DAW on a PC. This is a Sonar forum, though, so I am curious what this post is doing here.
    #9
    jabdo56
    Max Output Level: -86 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 203
    • Joined: 2004/02/25 18:44:48
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 00:06:41 (permalink)
    "And Alan Parsons hasn't been relevant since....... EVER!"
     
    Irrelevant?

    Beatles: Abbey Road
    Pink Floyd: Dark Side Of The Moon

    Hmmm . . . I guess you're right.

    James A. Abdo
    BrokenWorks Productions, LLC
    www.BrokenWorks.com
    #10
    vicsant
    Max Output Level: -63 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1378
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 20:44:33
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 00:11:35 (permalink)
    konradh

    This is a Sonar forum, though, so I am curious what this post is doing here. 


    I was considering this unit in tandem with Sonar....so I guess it's kinda relevant to the forum...

    Besides, I wanted to hear your thoughts on the matter....thanks.
    #11
    TStorms
    Max Output Level: -84 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 336
    • Joined: 2005/01/01 18:05:04
    • Location: Joisey
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 00:40:31 (permalink)
    jabdo56


    "And Alan Parsons hasn't been relevant since....... EVER!"
     
    Irrelevant?

    Beatles: Abbey Road
    Pink Floyd: Dark Side Of The Moon

    Hmmm . . . I guess you're right.


    Well said... not to mention Hollies, Ambrosia and Al Stewart... hey, didn't he use a Neo on those projects?

    Hipatitis (n): Terminal coolness. 
       
     Platinum on Win 7 Intel i7 870 8GB Ram Crucial SSD WD Raptor 10K RPM TC Electronic StudioKonnekt48 Akai MPK49
    #12
    Guitarhacker
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 24398
    • Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
    • Location: NC
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 08:46:09 (permalink)
    Two posts...same topic? 

    As I said in the other one, this unit is just too hard to work efficiently with the kind of music and the requirements I have to run synths for drums and other instruments. 

    If one was to work in the audio world, such as a small garage band on a limited budget, this would probably be the ideal solution to their recording needs. Hook up a bunch of mics on the drums, guitars and vocals and have at it.  

    Try using a drum synth like I must do and the problems with it become immediately apparent. That's why I sold the one I had just a few weeks after I bought it and went out and spent all the money I needed to spend to get a computer based DAW up and running properly. 

    I'm not really trying to knock that thing..... there are people who would find it ideal for their situation as I mentioned above. 

    However, I'll wager that most people here (using Cakewalk products) are here because they have found a computer based DAW that allows soft synths and samples and all the other goodies to be the best solution to their recording needs. 

    I know I did. 

    My website & music: www.herbhartley.com

    MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW   
    Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface


    BMI/NSAI

    "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer 
    #13
    daveny5
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 16934
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 09:54:36
    • Location: North Carolina
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 08:48:00 (permalink)
    jabdo56


    "And Alan Parsons hasn't been relevant since....... EVER!"
     
    Irrelevant?

    Beatles: Abbey Road
    Pink Floyd: Dark Side Of The Moon

    Hmmm . . . I guess you're right.

    OK, I'll give him props as an engineer, but his music was quite forgetable. Also, his Symphonic Music of Yes CD was pretty bad. Even Jon Anderson didn't like it. 
    post edited by daveny5 - 2012/01/13 08:49:11

    Dave
    Computer: Intel i7, ASROCK H170M, 16GB/5TB+, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Sonar Platinum, TASCAM US-16x08, Cakewalk UM-3G MIDI I/F
    Instruments: SL-880 Keyboard controller, Korg 05R/W, Korg N1R, KORG Wavestation EX
    Axes: Fender Stratocaster, Line6 Variax 300, Ovation Acoustic, Takamine Nylon Acoustic, Behringer GX212 amp, Shure SM-58 mic, Rode NT1 condenser mic.
    Outboard: Mackie 1402-VLZ mixer, TC Helicon VoiceLive 2, Digitech Vocalist WS EX, PODXTLive, various stompboxes and stuff. 
    Controllers: Korg nanoKONTROL, Wacom Bamboo Touchpad
    #14
    AT
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 10654
    • Joined: 2004/01/09 10:42:46
    • Location: TeXaS
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 10:23:09 (permalink)
    The tascam is amazing when you look at what it provides, but ain't so good in depts.  Even if you use it as a front end and dump the audio to SONAR, you are still stuck w/ the same convertors/preamps.  At $20 per channel they may be good, but they are still $20 per channel.  It is a replacement for the portastudio, not recording studio.

    As far as Alan Parsons, he produced good stuff and was cutting edge back when.  He sold millions w/ his Alan Parsons project.  Maybe that ain't the best way to judge music but it is a lot less nebulous than being "artistic" if you are making a living at it. 

    @

    https://soundcloud.com/a-pleasure-dome
    http://www.bnoir-film.com/  
     
    there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
    24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
    #15
    Gaffpro
    Max Output Level: -75 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 792
    • Joined: 2004/05/10 03:42:07
    • Location: Palm City, FL. / Nashville, TN.
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 15:23:55 (permalink)
    I have the original Tascam 2488 and now use it as a monitoring board. But when I was recording with it, it sounded great.
    For $499, it's still a very useful piece of equipment....no you won't get the editing, plugins as in Sonar...but you also won't get the issues like souncard issues, pops, clicks, etc.
    I actually bring my 2488 when I do cowrites in Nashville

    Dell Studio XPS intel i7860, 8 gigs dual ram, Sonar X2 (x64), Windows 7

    RME UCX     Yamaha NS10, Equator D5, JBL LSR 2325 monitors
    Vintech X73i, Great River ME-1NV, Joe Meek VC3Q preamps
    RNC 1773, DBX 163x, Joe Meek VC3Q compressors
    DBX 263x deesser
    Neumann U87, TLM 103, AKG 214, CAD E100s 
    Peluso 2247SE 
    AT4050 and 4051
    Shure KSM27, SM7, SM57, and UnidyneIII (from the 60's)
    Other assorted mikes
    #16
    Gaffpro
    Max Output Level: -75 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 792
    • Joined: 2004/05/10 03:42:07
    • Location: Palm City, FL. / Nashville, TN.
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/13 15:25:56 (permalink)
    BTW: Alan Parsons has always been a giant in this industry.....besides his engineering credits....hasn't anyone ever heard "Wouldn't Wanna Be Like You"? from the late 70's? That tune rocks!

    Dell Studio XPS intel i7860, 8 gigs dual ram, Sonar X2 (x64), Windows 7

    RME UCX     Yamaha NS10, Equator D5, JBL LSR 2325 monitors
    Vintech X73i, Great River ME-1NV, Joe Meek VC3Q preamps
    RNC 1773, DBX 163x, Joe Meek VC3Q compressors
    DBX 263x deesser
    Neumann U87, TLM 103, AKG 214, CAD E100s 
    Peluso 2247SE 
    AT4050 and 4051
    Shure KSM27, SM7, SM57, and UnidyneIII (from the 60's)
    Other assorted mikes
    #17
    ChuckC
    Max Output Level: -61 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1488
    • Joined: 2010/02/13 01:22:55
    • Location: Port Charlotte, Fl
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/14 11:39:11 (permalink)
      Over the years I had 2 different tascam 4 track cassette machines (still have one of them) and a digital 8 track that I used for years before getting into the DAW world.   Yes, I agree with the OP if you are looking to integrate with sonar ths is a cheap way to get 24 audio tracks down simultaneously with extream portability a daw can't provide.  You can always dump tracks into sonar to edit (as he said).

    M@ B - a laptop with the vs100 (or 700 for that matter) isn't going to let you throw up mics on a drum kit, on guitars, bass,  + vocals.... It just ain't gonna happen.
     
    EDIT: Neither is the neo with only 8 inputs....   though this had more?  WTH ?  Nah, with that in mind, why bother with it?

    Konradh- This section is FOR non-sonar based hardware....  this is posted in the right place bro!

    I seriously considered this unit when I got started too.  For someone on a budget looking to track a real live band (no synths, samples, etc) this is a valid option and a cheaper one.  No it doesn't give you the editing capabilities,  but I produced some fun stuff on a machine with a lot less capabilities than this thing...   I looked at it and thought well either way I need ref. monitors so that's a wash.   So $500 for the neo and say $500 for monitors and I could get started... $1000

       Or on the flip side(approx values), it's monitors $500, + computer (cheap at $600) +Keyboard $20+ mouse $15+ monitor screen $150+ interface ($500)+ sonar ($400) = $2185.00 a lot more money and a hefty learning curve and now I can get started....

        I utimately went with the DAW because I knew I wanted the flexibility to edit more, but I paid for it.   I would love to have a Neo to add to this system myself.  It would be great for live recording at gigs.  I could get our sound tech to run outputs from the board and run those into the neo and edit/mix later in sonar.

    post edited by ChuckC - 2012/01/14 11:45:10

    ADK Built DAW, W7, Sonar Platinum, Studio One Pro,Yamaha HS8's & HS8S  Presonus Studio/Live 24.4.2, A few decent mic pre's,  lots of mics, 57's,58 betas, Sm7b, LD Condensors, Small condensors, Senn 421's,  DI's,  Sans Amp, A few guitar amps etc. Guitars : Gib. LP, Epi. Lp, Dillion Tele, Ibanez beater, Ibanez Ergodyne 4 String bass, Mapex Mars series 6 pc. studio kit, cymbals and other sh*t.
    http://www.everythingiam.net/
    http://www.stormroomstudios.com
    Some of my productions: http://soundcloud.com/stormroomstudios
    #18
    Rbh
    Max Output Level: -52 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2349
    • Joined: 2007/09/05 22:33:44
    • Location: Indiana
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/14 17:31:42 (permalink)
    It's the internet.... remember to take things with a 50 lb block of salt.

    I7 930 2.8 Asus PDX58D
    12 Gig
    Appollo
    CbB, Sonar Pro, Reaper, Samplitude, MixBuss
     Win7 Pro

    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=902832
    #19
    M@ B
    Max Output Level: -68 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1128
    • Joined: 2010/01/05 20:54:54
    • Status: offline
    Re:WOW! Amazing Deal! 2012/01/15 12:42:48 (permalink)
    ChuckC -------- You're right, vs100 does not have comparable inputs, not even close. That was a bad example. Last year I was interested in making the type of recording you described above, though lack of inputs was only part of the problem. The bigger issue was that even if i could get all of the instruments onto their own track along with 4 or 5 mics on the drum kit, I did not have the means to isolate all of the instruments from each other and prevent bleed. Ultimately, the drum and vocal mics would have been reduced to a bunch of room mics, while the bass and guitar would have had reasonable isolation. So the outcome was just to track the bass (direct) and the drums first and overdub everything else. With a few channels of external preamps, this is do-able with the vs100 and a laptop. ---------------------------------------- Either way, whether you purchase this Tascam unit or if you go the laptop/interface route, some additional hardware is required. Imho, spending $500 on the Tascam is really debatable, the laptop/interface is much more powerful.

    #20
    Jump to:
    © 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1