Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX)

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2013/03/04 15:45:19 (permalink)

Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX)

I don't know what it was about this simple song that made it so difficult for me to record.  I struggled to come up with guitar fills and accents for this number (fills -since I didn't really leave room for a lead break).  It may have been because this number turned out to be more of a rocker than the 1950's style Blues number that I had intended.  I gave up when I realized that the talent of Mark (CLEAN)certainly could come up with something.  He did --- just for the asking --- and I think that what he came up with fit the song perfectly.  Thank you Mark!  I also realize sound effects are usually hokey but I couldn't help myself.
 
So given all of these concerns, I would appreciate any crit's, feedback, comments, etc.
 
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    Lynn
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/04 17:54:01 (permalink)
    Hey Freddy, you really rewrote the book on this song.  The synth bass is rarely associated with the blues, yet it provided much of the drive for this tune.  And, the chord progression was something different than the typical I-IV-V progression we usually get.  The tone of your guitar was thick and just right for this, and you sang it well.  I could see those clouds rolling across the bay.  I applaud you for going outside the box!

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/05 01:05:25 (permalink)
    Indeed. Really nice twist to the blues. Brilliant tune. However, Freddy... the mix... what happened there? I think I would enjoy mixing this tune. I am not saying I can do it better, but it is such a cool song, it would be a blast to work on.

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/05 09:51:18 (permalink)
    prolific and terrific

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/05 12:22:09 (permalink)
    Love it Freddy & Mark... The synth bass works for me too...

    I'd lose the drum fills on the choruses (V-chord), or bring 'em in earlier so they end with a crash on the down-beat of the E chord... they sound out of place and distracting... you lose momentium there...

    very cool tune... 
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/05 12:47:01 (permalink)
    Good stuff. I liked the chord progression.
    I'm hearing separation between the vox and backer.
    I think of most rock blues as having a more embedded vox that is screamed out (with verb and delay), both to get on top of the "live" band and to add feeling.
    I'm uncomfortable with the Buddy Holly Ooo-ahoo touches (because I'm old enough to have been a big fan) but they might still work if the track has some reverb/delay, which would also mix it into the backer.
    Good driving backer BTW, just needs to be up front more.
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/05 16:45:44 (permalink)
    This chugs along nicely with a groove that locks you in right from the off.

    I like the synth bass too, adds a nice twist.

    Some great guitar licks from Mark and cool vocals from you Freddy.

    Nice one.
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/06 23:51:40 (permalink)
    Freddy - this is such a cool blues tune - thanks for letting me participate.

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/07 03:02:59 (permalink)
    Yeah, that works for me. The synth bass has just the right sense of urgency for the tune. Good stuff.

     
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/07 09:37:11 (permalink)
    Great guitar tones and riff. Sounds very good. Enjoyed it a lot.

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/07 19:09:57 (permalink)
    GREAT tune.  Love your vocal delivery on this piece.  Count me in for liking the synth bass.  I"m getting a ZZ Top vibe.  KUDOS GENTS!


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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/07 19:46:03 (permalink)
    Dang SoundQuack won't load. I'll try again later.

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/09 12:02:06 (permalink)
    Hi Freddy & Mark,

    Great job, guys. Very cool tune.

    Nice groove...I think the synth bass helps a lot there. Nice!

    Love the vocal delivery and Mark's guitar playing, too.

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/10 00:29:15 (permalink)
    Interesting mix. I like the song but I'm not sure about the synth bass. Purely subjective but there it is. I like the feel and everything sounds great.

    Nice!!!

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/10 09:07:11 (permalink)
    Hey Freddy, I really enjoyed this . Synth bass was a twist that I would never have thought of for this style, but it works. Something of ZZ Top about the whole thing for me - can imagine this as a good driving tune.  Not mad about the drum sounds (snare in particular could be beefed up some) but I'm only listening on lappy so make of that what you will. Enjoyed the listen regardless.
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/10 09:48:12 (permalink)
    Great job, guys!!!!

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/10 13:36:05 (permalink)
    I think of you as the Duke Rollibard of the Sonar Forum.  Cool and perfect fitting guitar riffs.

    Good tune Freddy.

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/10 20:40:20 (permalink)
    Cool tune.  Yeah, I was kinda' gettin' the ZZ Top thing goin' myself.  Good stuff, guys!
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away 2013/03/12 14:02:55 (permalink)
     Another great tune, Freddy, one of my favorite bluesmen. You certainly are productive. Nice fills, Mark.

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX) 2013/03/13 13:01:25 (permalink)
    Just a brief clarification.  Many of you mentioned my use of a synthetic bass.  Obviously  I must have done something wrong because I didn't use a synthetic bass --- just my little ol' Epiphone bass.  This is typical of the problems that I have been having with this song.  I think that part of the problem was that I tried using a lot more compression-limiting than I ever have and this may have fuzzed stuff up.  In this new mix I have taken that out and increased the DR values from 8 to 12 (I am more comfortable with the 12-14 range).  I hope that this helps with the mix.
     
    Hey Lynn.  Thanks for the kind words and encouragement.  Ya, I did stray from the typical 3 chord Blues progression. Some of the early electric Blues guys used to experiment with their stuff.  I thought I might try something a bit different.  In fact I remember listening to a couple of songs  from the early '50's that were done only in one chord and they were terrific.
     
    Hi Shad.  Thanks for the feedback and offer to do the mix.  I thought that it might be a quick fix -- so, I thought I would try first.  I hope that if it doesn't work the offer will still hold.
     
    Hello Robby and thank you! 
     
    Thank you Frank and thanks for the tip.  I moved the drum fill up a bit --- I hope that works better.  Thanks again.
     
    Thanks Glenn, Thanks for listening and I appreciate the feedback.  This song is a bit of an odd duck and probably doesn't fit any of the normal Blues categories.  It ended up very differently than what I intended when I started.  Let's just say a bit of confusion probably stirred things up.  You are probably right with the Holly-esque hic-up on the vocals but to paraphrase John Lee Hooker --- it was in me and had to come out   ;>)
     
    Hey John.  Great to see you back on the forum.  I appreciate your taking time to listen and thanks for the kind comments.
     
    Hi Mark.  Your guitar work really made this number.  It is always a treat to work on a number with you.
     
    Thanks for listening James and thanks for the feedback.
      
    Thank you Chas.  I'm very glad that you enjoyed it.
     
    Hey I like ZZ Top!  Thanks for listening and responding Kev.  I appreciate it.
     
    I appreciate the listen and the comments.  Thanks Gary.
     
    Hi Robert.  Thanks for the feedback.  I'm not sure about the synth bass either --- hopefully, I may have addressed this problem (see my comments above).  Thanks again.
     
    I'm glad you enjoyed it Paulo.  I changed things a bit, including the drums, that hopefully improved things a bit.  Thanks for the valued feedback.
     
    Hey Scotty!!  Thanks for listening and for the kind words.
     
    Duke Rollibard -- thanks Daryl.  Mark certainly did a terrific job in adding perfect fills and accents.  Thanks again.
     
    Hello Phil.  I'm glad that you liked it.  Thanks for listening and taking the time to comment.
     
    Thank you very much Mark (Courter).  Mark (Cline) did a great job on the fills -- didn't he?  I appreciate the kind words.
     
     
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX) 2013/03/16 06:55:44 (permalink)
    The new mix sounds great Freddy. 

    I would have liked the kick drum up a bit louder though to give the low end a bit of oomph, but that might be my electronica side coming out and others may disagree.

    Overall though, enjoyed it Freddy.
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX) 2013/03/16 10:29:35 (permalink)
    Hi Freddy, good job on this song and production.  Good lead vocal and Mark did great on the guitar licks. 

    The bass sounds good - not like a synth to me.  The drums are too compressed and the snare very wide sounding as compared to cracking or popping.  If you lighten up the stereo compression on the kit it might help the drums breath a little.  The lead vocal seems too up front to me.  

    I first listen on my speakers this morning at low volume 'cause my family is still sleeping.  I like to check my mixes at very low volume to see if I can still hear all the instruments.  In your mix, at low volume, I could not easily hear the kick and lead vocal seemed to be really up front.  Then, when I put on my ATH M50 cans, the kick was right there and the vocal did not seem as loud.  However, I am wondering if you did your final mix using phones instead of speakers.  You mix seems to translate better in phones to me anyway.  If you remix, try it on speakers at very low volume and then check in cans and speakers cranked up and see if you might like it better.  

    I love the lyrics and vibe.  You guys did a nice job on this.  

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX) 2013/03/16 10:38:07 (permalink)
    Really great tune, Mark's guitar is really sweet incing on this. The synth bass sounds totally cool,+1 for the ZZ vibe. Really great sounding vox and production.

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX) 2013/03/16 22:49:12 (permalink)
    Sounds great!  Very creative twist.  I like those guitar fills.  Vocals are excellent.  The snare sounded like it was missing the thud frequency, but maybe that was intended.
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX) 2013/03/17 18:32:08 (permalink)
    It sounds good, youse mugs!  Mark adds to any song and Freddy, well you are Freddy, a unique individual up here.

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    Re:Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX) 2013/03/20 20:29:29 (permalink)
    Hi John.  I used some commercial loops for the drums and have had some problems trying to get them to sound right.  Soooo, I pushed them to the back a bit.  Wrong move!  Thanks for listening and for the feedback.
     
    Hello Rimshot. You're right about the drums (see above response).  Perhaps I should search my files and see if I can find a better fit.  I do an initial mix with headphones then I take the song and listen to it on the Bose.  If it sound bad (often the case), I note what I don't like and go back to work on the files.  I would use my computer speakers but they are really crummy (Santa Clause must not have gotten my wish list).  Thanks for taking the time to respond and for the feedback.
     
    Hey Geno.  I appreciate the feedback and input.  I am having trouble with the drums (see the above two comments).  Other loop files that I have used from this batch have been OK but I've had a bit of trouble with this particular one.  Thanks again!
     
    Hi Warren!  How are you?  Thanks for the good words and you are absolutely right --- Mark always adds to any song.  I should ask him do the mixes also but then I wouldn't learn what I'm doing wrong.  Thanks again.
     
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    Re:Wash My Blues Away (NEW MIX) 2013/03/22 02:46:54 (permalink)
    Hey, Freddy,
     
    Wow, I don't know how I almost missed this very tasty blues rocker with a cool modern edge, but you and Mark did a dynamite job on this!
     
    Great playing and vocals, and the storm sound effects were really cool, too.
     
    Very nice work, Freddy!
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