Wave file output from master SonarX1 and UA25EX? All MIDI tracks.

Until this month, I have been using Creative Wave Studio, to record the output from SonarX1.
 
I am about to Install Windows7 64bit, and delete the Audigy2ZS from this computer, leaving just the UA-25EX for sound. I don't think the Audigy2zs CD will let me put Creative Wave Studio into the computer without a Creative sound-card present.
 
What is the name of the 'Creative Wave Studio' equivalent for the UA25EX? I have the "Cakewalk Production Plus Pack", and "UA-25 EX Drivers" CDs sitting in front of me. I don't want to clog up this computer with ALL of the stuff on them, I just want a "Simple Wave Studio equivalent" to record the ones and zeros before they get to the UA25EX DAC, and save them as a "wav" file on my computer.
 
In the past when I hit the output to wave file thing for the 'Master bus', it did nothing at all, lol. So I reverted to Wave Studio for making final mixes. record 'What you hear' there, and then click 'play' here, lol.

Yes, I want to essentially hit play on the entire 'project' and have SonarX (or separate wave recorder) ship the mix-down 'Master' output audio to a wave file. I know it sounds simple, I just failed to follow the tutorial vids correctly somehow.
 
I was keeping the Audigy, so Wave Studio wouldn't complain about recording what was coming out of SonarX, lol.
 
I just pooled the Audigy, and now SonarX wont start after doing a output config thing, lol. brb.

OK, set the output buffer way to high, all better now, and no skipping/missing notes. I cant wait for that ram and Win7 to arrive. I've run out of ram, lol.
 
Where was I, "O" I tried something like that export thing about a year ago (as I had seen in a vid), and the window that was supposed to open up, didn't appear. So I reverted to using play on that Transport to get the final mix out of sonar, and used Creative Wave Studio to record it.
 
I was just curious if the UA-25 EX came with something like Wave Studio, I don't just use it for recording the output of Sonar. I also use it with something called "fldigi", and for adjusting the levels/pan of wave files and instrument samples.
 
I'll go and read up on that "Export" thing again, tho I vaguely remember it only working with a single Virtual synth track, not the 'master' bus output.
 
 

There are a lot of options available when exporting audio in Sonar.  While the choices may seem overwhelming sometimes, everything that you need to create a wave file of your project is in Sonar.  There is no need for your Creative Wave Studio or Audigy.  Once you have your project mixed and playing how you want it just select Export-audio from the menu bar.  You may want to start with the preset called 'What you hear' when you first learn how to do this.  Once you have done this once or twice I think you will find that it is much less complicated than it seems.  You do need to give the export file a name.  Pay attention to what directory your file is being created in so that you can find it later.
 
Glen

You can only export a project if it has audio.  From your last post it sounds like you are using soft-synths.  The synths must be selected if this is the case.  They are what creates the audio in a MIDI only project.

I don't see where ANY tracks are selected in your screen capture (but that may have happened when you did the screen shot).  I think that the easiest way to do this is to select a single (any) track, then do a Ctrl-A.  The control A should select all of the tracks.  Don't worry if you have tracks muted.  the mute will be honored in the export.
 
Glen

In all the vids I watched, they used the bar near the top (where the repeat indicators appear, and that green pointer thing) to highlight a portion of a song, and then went to export it. Had that Control-A been mentioned in any of the vids, in any case it worked.

It's just a bit of a tricky maneuver to highlight the song and not the 'Scrap bin' after it. Now how do I remove the dead-space at the beginning of that wave file without 'Wavestudio'? New Project it in Sonar, or find another Wavestudio?
 
So I don't need to 'Bounce' each individual Midi track one at a time to audio first, just so I can do a mix down. Given that one-track-at-a-time option, the record with wave studio while Sonar was playing the song was easier and much quicker, lol.

"click-dragging along the timeline", that's what it's called. Its tricky (O.K. near Impossible with long tracks) to get the selection dead on bar that way.
 
Select By Time or Select From/Thru options. Time to do some reading. And look at Sonar's interface again.
 
So I take it there is no simple wave editor on that UA25EX set of CDs?
There is a grayed-out "WaveStudio" in the Sonar Menu Options, What is that for?

So while there seem to be a lot of things going on that you have to take care of right now, this is a because Sonar gives you a lot of control of what and how you export your projects.  There are actually a few other ways to do this that you may uncover as you get to know this workflow.  Trust me, having control (as opposed to the software making all of the decisions for you) is a good thing.
 
I am assuming that you are sending your output to busses, and then through a master bus before going to output.  The master bus is where you would want to control your fade in/out for the project.  Using volume automation works well for this on the master bus.  I have found that putting a Boost-11 on the FX of the master bus is a good way of limiting when you don't have access to some of the other Pro Channel tools.
 
The time ruler at the top can be used to control the start and stop point for the export.  I usually do this by click dragging on the timeline ruler.  The selected area is highlighted.  There are other ways to do this, but selecting on the timeline with a drag is the approach that I use. 
 
Glen

Well that was fun. I have some warnings about trying stuff if your operating at the 'Near Limits' of Ram.
 
NCH Software (WavePad), dose Pop-Up Browser window Advertising stuff. Needles to say that didn't go over so well with SonarX1 already going.
 
Wavosaur, at least has the fundamental (Joint left and right only) wave level adjustment options, tho I haven't done much with it yet. It dose not appear to exhibit that pop-up browser stuff, that I have noticed yet.
 
(edit) I was testing grabbing tom samples from the Session Drummer install, editing levels and pan, and inserting them into my custom Drums-set SFZ for Dimension Pro.

For audio capture you might consider a Virtual Audio Cable. There may be free ones on the 'net but I have no experience with any of them. This http://www.ddmf.eu/product.php?id=8 is an inexpensive option which has a demo.

It is not a Cakewalk product. Possibly something manually added to the Utilities menu following these instructions https://www.cakewalk.com/...e-to-SONARs-Tools-menu

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Cactus Music
It is very complicated to get this working if Sonar was installed first. The information about how to do it is outdated and only seems to work with XP . 

The instructions provided in #23 above are a detailed step by step description and worked for me (and many others that I have referred to the page) in Win7 for Melodyne, SoundForge 9/10, Wavosaur and Waveshop. Don't have Win8 but would be surprised if the instructions did not work.