Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d

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July 10, 09 10:15 PM (permalink)

Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d

I can't get Waves 6 VST plug-ins to show up in CD Architect 5.2d. I own Sound Forge 8. Is anybody else having that combination working together?

I would post this in the Sony Forums, but those forums are never visited and I heard that Waves forum is finished and taken down. I know lots of people here use CD Architect. Please help.

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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 10, 09 11:29 PM (permalink)
    I'm in the process of wiping and reinstalling my PC now. Tomorrow I'll be installing the rest of my apps including CD Architect. If no one answers by then I'll let ya know if it works for me.

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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 0:10 PM (permalink)
    I thought CD Architect only supported DX plugins.
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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 0:18 PM (permalink)
    I am pretty sure it does VST's. There are pluggins labeled VST in my CD Architect, but maybe that is because they are wrapped. In any case, that would make sense because the pluggins are just not showing up and I am pretty sure that I am telling CDA to look in the right folder.

    Mike, please do report on your findings as far as whether it works for you.

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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 11:09 AM (permalink)
    Nope DX only

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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 11:14 AM (permalink)
    Here is a post from Sony's forum on VST support for CDA.

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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 11:53 AM (permalink)
    Just came here to post the same info Don.
    I only use CDA to burn so I never even tried to use any plugs in it.

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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 11:58 AM (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: chefmike8888

    Just came here to post the same info Don.
    I only use CDA to burn so I never even tried to use any plugs in it.

    Mike

    Yep - I 'Author' in CDA but master elsewhere .....

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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 2:17 PM (permalink)
    Wow! Sooo frustrating. Here is the perfect example of a business throwing money out the window. CD Architect is well known throughout the industry as one of the best CD red book burning software applications on the planet. They have a strong niche with CD-A. I own Sound Forge 8, but I never use it because DAW's now do everything that I ever wanted Sound Forge to do, and does it better in many instances. I figure less and less people will be reaching for applications like Sound Forge as DAW's continue to include those types of tools as standard. But DAW's have yet to touch CD authoring in the way that CD-A has. When I am on Pro Tools forums, there are many posts asking, "what is the Mac type CD-A type application." And the only decent ones that seem to exist are $500 or more dollars. Many people that are Mac users, keep their PC only so that they can use CD-A. In my opinion, if Sony had their head on straight, they would really focus on dominating the market with CD-A and treat this application as Gold. It would have been the first to have VST support, new features, a version on the Mac and etc. It just seems that Sony has no idea how great CD-A is. If they continue as they are, it won't be long until another software solution comes along and steals away their niche in this area.

    ---I think CD-Architect is their most professional application in the industry. What a pity that they treat it like an afterthought. ....okay...done with my rant.


    In any case, I can't get these plug-ins to show up in Soundforge 8 either. Soundforge 8 is suppose to have VST support.

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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 3:24 PM (permalink)
    Also, they lost out by dropping the price of CD arch too, I think, as I remember originally I paid around $350 for it years back.


    But I agree, why the plug in needs at all? Oddly enough I use the Sony stuff in Cake, but not the other way around.

    Is Toast anygood on the Mac. I always thought that was the better Mac version.

    And lastly, I agree, like Photoshop, there isn't anything that even competes with it. People that use something else don't either need the features, or don't know what they don't know!

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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 3:41 PM (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: mixmkr

    Also, they lost out by dropping the price of CD arch too, I think, as I remember originally I paid around $350 for it years back.


    But I agree, why the plug in needs at all? Oddly enough I use the Sony stuff in Cake, but not the other way around.

    Is Toast anygood on the Mac. I always thought that was the better Mac version.

    And lastly, I agree, like Photoshop, there isn't anything that even competes with it. People that use something else don't either need the features, or don't know what they don't know!


    Toast is the biggest joke of anything I have ever seen. Nothing even close to CD Architect. I bought it because some of the high end studios around town were using it. It is just a tad better than iTunes. But man, Toast 9 is on my list as the all time buggiest software I have ever owned (and I have owned my fair share of buggy software). 2 out of the 7 features I tried with it even worked. One of those two being able to burn a CD. Toast 10 is suppose to be even worse.

    The main reason why I like to use plug-ins in CD-A is so that I can do my final limiting there. I like to use gentle limiting from my mastering process and leave the final limiting to CD-A so that I don't limit a track and then have to bring the volume down. I also find that some tracks usually need a little more limiting to match levels and etc. It is also nice to be able to add some EQ when you hear how the tracks sound side by side.

    CD Architect is so good, that if they made it compatible for the Mac and added VST, I would gladly pay $350 for it.

    -Dave
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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 10:37 PM (permalink)
    I've never had to go this route, but I'd have to think there are some VST wrappers that would work in CD arch. And yes, I have NEVER had CD arch crash in the over 10+ years I think I've had it...if not more years. I have gotten WAAAAY more than $350 use out of it. I can't count the number of CD projects I've burnt and the program was the "dream" of doing the total project.

    But, that said, it was an EXTREME hassle for me to upgrade from 5.0 to 5.2. The upgrade process wasn't recognizing my serial #, and ONLY until I could get a LIVE person ( I just called the number to order new online), that they gave me a new serial number, deleted 5.0 off my computer FIRST, and then 5.2 installed like a champ.

    But prior to that, I spent a good 5 hours messing with it (even d/l the program they had if you had the old Sonic Foundry codes, etc).

    and yeah... I never used Toast... just speculating. I remember 10 yeares ago, that was the Mac program of choice...good or bad.

    and I can understand your use of fx in CD arch too. That works. However, my personal preference is to get the EQ, etc prior to the burning. But, I suppose that is why those features are there, so you can do that kind of stuff. and THAT said, I do use the volume envelopes quite a bit...especially to custom the fades after the mix, to match going into the next songs better...stuff like that. Even intros.
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    RE: Waves 6.0 Plug-ins and CD Architect 5.2d July 11, 09 11:58 PM (permalink)
    That is another bothersome thing. I went to post on Sony's forums and boy are they difficult to get on. It wouldn't accept me as a forum user by just registering my CD Architect program and so I needed to register my Sound Forge 8 to a specific computer, but I am planning on moving my PC onto my Mac, so I didn't want to register Sound Forge 8 with my old computer ID. So I ended up having to give up using their forums. What a pain! You think they would see forums as a benefit for them too. Forums are great support for users and many times keep me from calling manufacturers and using up their time because I can get answers from forums.

    In any case, I feel for you with the hassle you went through. It really stinks to go through those sort of things--especially when you have honestly purchased the product. It reminds me of how difficult Waves products used to be to get working.

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